RIP Bard

u dont have to use it u know? u can ignore it...u will lose dmg but keep the movility....

im going to use and enjoy it , i only hate the charging animation (reaching the quiver really?) , but its all i have been asking for , more dmg ! , i give up the moving and shooting ? yes , but if the dmg boost is enough to compensate , im more than happy :D

remember that u arent ROOTED u can still move, u will lose the cast like BLM does now, but u can start casting again....it will suck when u are learning a boss ? yes , but once u learned it u will love the dmg boost that this stance give u , a few bosses ask to move 100% of the time not even the old titan extreme....ask u to move all the time, and even as i said turn the buff down and play like always or keep it up and do more dmg while u arent moving.

maybe finally now Battle voice does something for Brds too :o (one can dream!)

lets wait and see :)

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

u dont have to use it u know? u can ignore it...u will lose dmg but keep the movility....

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You miss the point. If it's here, it means bard dps is balanced around it. It also means you'll have to use it if you want to be good and actually clear content (not talking about trivial and on farm content). Not using it will mean that someone willing to use it will bring more and be more useful than you.
I don't play bard, but can understand the complaint on what has been announced.

I wish this ability worked a bit more like Sniper Training in WoW where after being still for 3 seconds, damage goes up and the buff falls off when in motion. Stopping in every momentary lull to sing means singing a looot if you want optimal up time on the buff. To me that's not challenging, it's clunky. There are a ton of movement heavy fights in this game.

edit: looks like movement does NOT dispel Wanderer's Minuet so recasting won't be necessary as often if you are just hopping left out of a targeting area. It still seems like optimal dps from Bards will focus on Bards being turrets, though. I can stand still as a Bard and often do but the reason I took it up as a second class was I liked to do all I could do while being in motion if I had to. It was a welcome change from my main class (BLM) even if I don't put out the same explosive numbers. My own opinion though, obviously people who main Bard feel differently.

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

u dont have to use it u know? u can ignore it...u will lose dmg but keep the movility....

im going to use and enjoy it , i only hate the charging animation (reaching the quiver really?) , but its all i have been asking for , more dmg ! , i give up the moving and shooting ? yes , but if the dmg boost is enough to compensate , im more than happy :D

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And this is what bothers me. Now I know I can't tell you to not play Bard, but you've been wanting so much so to do more damage, and you're willing to sacrifice mobility? Why didn't you ever just pick up BLM? This whole playing Class A thing but wanting it to function like Class B without just playing Class B thing, it's kinda some backward thinking. It's like eating a Granny Smith and hating that it tastes kinda sour, so you start making requests it should start tasting like a Red Delicious. But you know, some of us want that taste from the Granny Smith, and you can very well eat your Red Delicious.

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Originally Posted by Lewtskie

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Even with the change, BRD will play very different from BLM. It'll likely play closer to SMN. First off Wanderer's Minuet might likely only be efficient for DoT setting, since being able to rapid fire Heavy Shots and Bloodletters has thus far been the entire point of the BRD's DPS outside their DoTs. Unless it's a HUGE damage upgrade, it would still be more worthwhile to get more hits off with Heavy Shot in a short amount of time than it would be to increase each one's damage.
But also as a perk, it's up to the bard themselves to make this call. This allows for differences in playstyles, as well as circumstantial adaptability. The BLM will ALWAYS be pinned down, the BRD won't be. Being able to have decisions to make is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon

What's really funny is that if you actually do have another song on when you have this stance up then you're really doing it wrong...

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Not if you have Foe's on...most of these comments must be coming from players that do not play Bard. It is hard to say until we actually see all the abilities and what the actual wording on them is but the way I see it is that you will most likely still do the burst opener and then use the song when able to maintain your dps during the time your buffs are on cool down and then you can go back into burst when it is available again. Sidewinder sounds like it is going to be pretty bad ass to me. I hope that is not all the abilities they get and I wonder what the "changes" to their abilities will be.

Playing bard has always been pure joy to me. The constant movement creates a flowing playstyle that captured me from the beginning. I've avoided all other classes that have to stop to cast so these new changes are against everything I've ever enjoyed about playing bard. My DPS is just fine thank you, we don't need this change. I would have preferred to see more support abilities or even a better LB. People will adapt and make it work, but in essence you're breaking the spirit of bard. Free the bards! :)

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Originally Posted by Ken_8O

Playing bard has always been pure joy to me. The constant movement creates a flowing playstyle that captured me from the beginning. I've avoided all other classes that have to stop to cast so these new changes are against everything I've ever enjoyed about playing bard. My DPS is just fine thank you, we don't need this change. I would have preferred to see more support abilities or even a better LB. People will adapt and make it work, but in essence you're breaking the spirit of bard. Free the bards! :)

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Just saying, but we are getting a new LB3.

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Originally Posted by Spiritreaver1217

Just saying, but we are getting a new LB3.

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A damage LB exclusive to physical ranged dps and a new LB3 for each job.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

A damage LB exclusive to physical ranged dps and a new LB3 for each job.

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Cheers for that.