Astrologian Speculations! How will it fit in?

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

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that would be ignoring this part :

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You will have to already own A Realm Reborn, plus complete all of the main story quests up through Patch 2.55. After that, an introductory quest for Heavensward will become available; accepting that quest will then guide you through the gates of Ishgard. All of the job quests related to the new jobs will be in Ishgard as well, so the condition to access those will be the same.

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Which is the official statement for now. New jobs won't be for fresh 30 people.

The lv30 thing is related to the equipment requirements of the soul crystals. You have to be at least lv30 to be able to equip it. Nothing more.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

You have to be at least lv30 to be able to equip it. Nothing more.

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But the info they have currently also states that there is no 'base class' for these jobs, which brings enough issues imo with wondering how the skills work....do you just get like ten skills fresh at lvl 30 ast/drk/mch, and do they gain any skills with just leveling or do they have to do a quest for each skill? If you are level 50 then are you ast/drk/mch 50 since there is no base class? Does no base class mean you tack these skills onto ANY other class? They have unique weapons so will it be that equipping that weapon changes your class via the armory system is all, since a soul crystal wouldn't be necessary to differentiate it form a base class because it has none? I'm not saying any of these necessarily make sense, but since we have so very little info to go off of, anything is up in the air.

I am wondering then why state the lvl 30 though since to complete the main storyline you have to be lvl 50. Seems stupid, and superfluous.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

Which is the official statement for now. New jobs won't be for fresh 30 people.

The lv30 thing is related to the equipment requirements of the soul crystals. You have to be at least lv30 to be able to equip it. Nothing more.

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That's the point my post and the last few posters were questioning.

The side note about how to actually enter the area seems specific to the storyline (as in you won't get the storyline quests without completing it.) Wouldn't it be absolutely ridiculous for some one to want to play with their friends in the 3.0 area but can't because they haven't completed the 2.x storyline yet, even though they bought the Expansion? Yeah something tells me that wouldn't go over well with new players one bit. There's probably an introductory storyline for Heavensward that actually kicks off the V3.0 main storyline, that is ONLY available after completing the 2.x mainstream storyline, because otherwise it wouldn't make logical sense. But artificially blocking players from getting to the new three Jobs without completing the 2.x storyline seems like some kind of miscommunication when they mention level 50 and level 30 in the same breath. Are players really going to want to level one class all the way to 50 just so they can start the Job they really want? Something is missing in that communication, be it not wanting to spoil it, or being intentionally vague.

The new jobs are Heavensward content. I see no reason to treat them similar to the other jobs that are already ingame. As all the Heavensward content is basically locked behind the MSQ from the 2.x series, it makes sense that the jobs are as well.

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Originally Posted by LycorisSelunis

I am wondering then why state the lvl 30 though since to complete the main storyline you have to be lvl 50. Seems stupid, and superfluous.

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To push tanks and healers into the woefully underpopulated 30-50 dungeon bracket.

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Originally Posted by Krr

To push tanks and healers into the woefully underpopulated 30-50 dungeon bracket.

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Makes sense I guess. It's just the phrasing bugs me.....simply state that the jobs start at level 30 not that 30 is the requirement, seeing as how the real prereq includes level 50.

At any rate, if AST is supposed to switch between a SCH like stance and a WHM like stance I wonder if they will have any hots for the WHM side, or if only WHM and Eos will have hots. Or maybe the WHM stance is just direct heals and the SCH stance is shields and hots with NO normal direct heals. That could be interesting, though unlikely.

Guys guys, astrologians will draw a card that has an equal chance of healing big numbers, mitigation/shield, or buff. However this is going to be complete rng. Like most of the game. :D

They won't learn any other skills besides "Draw Card".

Man, the Healer's should/shouldn't DPS derailment. It all comes down to "Are you comfortable DPS'ing? yes? Then do it. no? Then don't."

But looking more and more into AST I can say I'm super excited. I'm going to assume the buff they bring is a Skill/Spell Speed buff because of what Square has mentioned about the Haste Buff, and the fact that SS is being updated in the expansion. The people who are talking about the barrier stance being all mitigation actually makes me cringe. I imagine in Healing Stance, they'll have their Cure at a Potency at 350. In Barrier stance it'll be a 200 Potency Heal, with 150 Potency Shield on top of it. I imagine white mage will stay with its burst healing, and healing over time. Scholar will still be the kings of shields and a high dps output. The strength of the AST will be that it can do what they can do, while not to the same extent while still bringing its own abilities to the table. I like this design as it means each healer will be welcomed, and not one will be "better" the the other except maybe very specific fights and stuff.

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Originally Posted by Cariborne

Man, the Healer's should/shouldn't DPS derailment. It all comes down to "Are you comfortable DPS'ing? yes? Then do it. no? Then don't."

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That's like telling DPS that it's ok not to learn and use their proper rotations and CDs if they aren't comfortable with that level of activity. Sure, they can get the job done in most cases without playing as well as they could, but it shouldn't be encouraged.

But yes, definitely excited for AST and to see how it fits in with everything.

If you watch the 'leaked' Heavensward benchmark footage on Reddit, the card drawing looks really quick, and it seems she uses the first card she draws to give a rather quick fire based buff to the ninja (and whole party) that deals extra fire damage or something ^^ Interesting and makes me look forward to the job even more (plus the great AF)!