this is getting Ridiculous

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Originally Posted by ispano

You do realize that the people in the big Hunt LS' consider people who pull early, griefers, right? In fact on many servers, even if you're not part of their group and you pull early they threaten to blacklist you and other such things.

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Please don't try to avoid the point. But seriously this is, like the title of the thread, getting ridiculous. I'm finished here.

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Originally Posted by DishSoap

Please don't try to avoid the point.

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Please do tell how i'm avoiding the point? I know what a griefer is. That doesn't change the fact that many of these large mobs think of you the same way. And being unclear about something you say can easily give them the incorrect notion that they can report a group pulling before they get there, which is not the case and is the spreading of misinformation. Intentional or not.

How can you tell who reset the mob?

The other day in Mor Dhona I found the Leech King while I was randomly on my way to do something else. Told my LS, no one was on/not interested so I do a shout with the coordinates. A min later, in the distance I see the hoarde blazing towards me, so I claim the mob so I can get full credit solo because I was qued for a duty. Hoarde shows up and immediately the mob gets reset and then zerged down in a matter of seconds. I get 1 seal.... I just don't see how that is fair. I followed the "rules" and still got screwed. I guess I will just have to join a hunt LS if I want to do this content. If anyone has an opening on Excalibur I would love an invite.

if you are a small party of 5 people, why are you more important than the 100+ in the Hunt mob? Its easy to join a Hunt mob.

if you can't beat the zerg, join the zerg.

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Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

Because it's fair as hell that only the few of you get credit when there's a ton of others than would like credit too, right?

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That doesn't make it fair just because others want it. Okay, so I want some of your gil, give me some and that's fair. Infact, give some to everyone on the server and that might be fair. No, it's not. Gil is earned from drops in dungeons, gathering, crafting, raids, monster killing, etc. and hunts are no different. They just have a fancy name and different currency so it's not fair for other people to expect the reward for something someone else has done.

It's fair gain for whomever takes, kills, or contributes to the mob or holds the aggro. If someone doesn't want to wait, so be it. But it's not fair to have to give up your reward just because someone else wants it.

Report the tank who reset it.

Resetting a monster that you found is a form of griefing, which is punishable.

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Originally Posted by MythToken

if you are a small party of 5 people, why are you more important than the 100+ in the Hunt mob? Its easy to join a Hunt mob.

if you can't beat the zerg, join the zerg.

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Because there's still a limit on how many people/groups can get full credit. And why are you more important? You got there and pulled it first. That's why you are more important.

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Originally Posted by Barboron

That doesn't make it fair just because others want it. Okay, so I want some of your gil, give me some and that's fair. Infact, give some to everyone on the server and that might be fair. No, it's not. Gil is earned from drops in dungeons, gathering, crafting, raids, monster killing, etc. and hunts are no different. They just have a fancy name and different currency so it's not fair for other people to expect the reward for something someone else has done.

It's fair gain for whomever takes, kills, or contributes to the mob or holds the aggro. If someone doesn't want to wait, so be it. But it's not fair to have to give up your reward just because someone else wants it.

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Finite resource vs something everyone can get credit for.
Terrible analogy.

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Originally Posted by ispano

Because there's still a limit on how many people/groups can get full credit. And why are you more important? You got there and pulled it first. That's why you are more important.

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No there isn't, it's purely enmity based.
That's why so many groups run lots of healers/tanks to generate as much enmity as possible in a short time.
There is not limit to how many people or groups can obtain full credit.

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Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

Finite resource vs something everyone can get credit for.
Terrible analogy.

No there isn't, it's purely enmity based.
That's why so many groups run lots of healers/tanks to generate as much enmity as possible in a short time.
There is not limit to how many people or groups can obtain full credit.

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You're right, it is enmity based, there is still a limit. It's designed that way.

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Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

Finite resource vs something everyone can get credit for.
Terrible analogy.

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Terrible analogy, how? Is it that you think everyone can actually get full credit? The more people there are, the less time you have to generate aggro. The less aggro, lower contribution. Lower contribution, lower rewards.