AOE Toggle Needs to GO

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

I've always thought that too. Unless there is a cap on how many buffs you can have, it should automatically be AoE, IMO. Very few situations where I would only want to buff one person (time and enmity).

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In an idealistic situation I imagine some monsters/bosses would debuff and it would be practical to only do single buff on say.. a tank only. This would be in order to prevent aggro to casters, but fights dont like that exist right now. Furthermore I doubt well see complex fights for a good while until all the combat mechanics can support that style of casting, which they currently dont.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Macros are simply workarounds. If we have to live our lives by macros, then something is broken.

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And yet you want to turn this game into a FFXI-clone, never mind the fact that that game's spell lists were SO convoluted that macros were the only practical way to fire off spells quickly. Sounds like you WANT this game to be broken, just because you hate a particular feature.

I love the AOE toggle on game pad. So sexy!

They definitely need to do something about the AoE toggle. I think they either need to eliminate it altogether, or limit it to certain spells and possibly increase the mana cost when AoE mode is engaged (though I'd much rather them work it into specific abilities meant to be used for AoE).

are people just really running out of things to complain about?.... OP sorry but the toggle is not that hard to use, nor is it in the way, and the "controller" comment, FFXI and FFXIV are designed for controller use first, and keyboard/mouse second. This is not a debate, it is fact, and it will stay that way.

Meaningful content "should" be more important than [tweaks/revamps/additions] to combat.
If we prioritize the latter, "Great, combat is now (slightly more) fun. I still have nothing to do. (/quit or /vacation)"
Of course, non-issue since different teams work on each branch of content (or so we're told).

Static AoE toggle icon, like how target filter shows now, would be great.

For now, commit it (the current toggle) to muscle memory.

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

And yet you want to turn this game into a FFXI-clone, never mind the fact that that game's spell lists were SO convoluted that macros were the only practical way to fire off spells quickly. Sounds like you WANT this game to be broken, just because you hate a particular feature.

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LOL, good Gods, no. I would never want this to be FFXI-2. How did you infer that? That game's UI was nothing but an archaic menu-driven console port. The menu-driven spell selection was the problem, not the number of choices.

My comment about macros was indeed a jab at FFXI. You had no choice but to live by macros to get anything done, because the UI prevented you from performing actions in a smooth and timely manner. I'd like to think we've advanced since then.

FFXIV is indeed somewhat better than its predecessor. You have an action bar, which would make you think that you can pick your action through a minimum of selections (two clicks--select target, select spell). But no, there are other issues, such as the action bars not being all visible all the time and the confirmation/toggle.

It feels like a PC/console hybrid. I definitely think SE can do better.

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

And yet you want to turn this game into a FFXI-clone, never mind the fact that that game's spell lists were SO convoluted that macros were the only practical way to fire off spells quickly. Sounds like you WANT this game to be broken, just because you hate a particular feature.

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I'm having a hard time determining if this is sarcasm or not.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

FFXIV is indeed somewhat better than its predecessor.

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If by somewhat better you mean graphically, it is indeed.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

You have an action bar, which would make you think that you can pick your action through a minimum of selections (two clicks--select target, select spell). But no, there are other issues, such as the action bars not being all visible all the time and the confirmation/toggle.

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You would have the same problem without the aoe toggle
select main target -> select spell -> select spell target

Note to everyone one they are saying get rid of toggle, not moogle! DONT YOU DARE TOUCH MY MOOGLE'S SE!