Mana song lower dps of the bard, so your dps may not even made up to it. That bard is too stubborn though, he should chose to play the song if your mana that low, even if he may not be agree with you dpsing ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgPilez
On other hand, if you let your mana ever get that low, you were too focus in dpsing probably. Manage your mana better, and stop dps when it's not safe (meaning when you get in a group where ppl eat every single aoe xD )
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05-09-2015, 08:34 PMNormalizer
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05-09-2015, 09:35 PMSiriusCrescentThere is no mana to manage when people eat every aoe possible so you are -forced- to spam heal and get drained of mana.Quote:
Originally Posted by Normalizer
There is a between difference spamming heals/doing dps when it's not needed and thus going OOM or going OOM because your party consists of statues who can't dodge.
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I'm most likely a healer horror story for every healer that meets me.
I'm a new Paladin who recently (2 days ago) hit level 50 for the first time, but when I'm doing Low Level Roulette I take so much damage I wonder if I'm just bad or what's up with that...
Is downscaled gear worse than actual non-scaled level appropriate gear?
Also, why does Paladin AoE threat suck so much? I hard trouble keeping aggro in Braxsomething Longstop and DD, but Aurum Vale which my whole FC described as a "nightmare" went smooth without me losing aggro once.... I don't get it Q_Q -
05-09-2015, 10:27 PMcgbspenderBe it the healer dps "too much" or had to raise plenty of times (we don't only raise our own team, you know), bards who refuse to play their songs for the sake of their "good dps" is just a bad excuse. And being low in mana is not just because of the 2 reasons above. It can be that the healer got hit and died by an unexpected attack, or one that he couldn't avoid.A raised mage is a mage without any mana. Just the same for players using TP. No mana = no cures = Some will die. And nobody hits the enemy when they're on the floor.THAT would be the ultimate "lack of dps". And when we get to choose who we keep alive or not, due to having our mana too low to save everybody, a bard who didn't bother to sing will be the first to hit the floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Normalizer
On the other hand, a bard who always keep an eye on our mana, or everyone else's mana and start singing when the time is ripe, or a bard who always precast Requiem when there's a black mage in the party so as to let his mate "burst" his opener, or a bard who is wise enough to know 3/4 minutes is the average time to start singing Peons, THAT guy will get a comm' for sure. Some do that perfectly. They are rare, still. -
05-09-2015, 11:09 PMNormalizerI was referencing to his story though. He didn't die in his story.Quote:
Originally Posted by cgbspender
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05-10-2015, 12:12 AMelemental10The trouble you keep losing agro at low level is because you don't have shield oath(2x enmity generation). Usually, if that happens to me, at the start of the pull afterQuote:
Originally Posted by SiriusCrescent
shield lob, i'll flash at least 3 times and then concetrate on the target of the highest DPS. After 2 combos, flash once and repeat.
Especially at BrayFLOX, flashing 3 times at least at the start of pull is crucial to keep the other mobs other than you're targeting to not agro on your healer or AOE DPS.
It helps if you tag the target, so the DPS would know which one to kill (easier agro management for you) but if you're confident, you don't have to. -
05-10-2015, 02:20 PMSelliI think so. For low level gear there is green gear (like the background), pink/purple gear, and white gear (this is usually crafted and also has a HQ version). White being lowest, green being best. I think when you level sync it gives you the same stats as a full normal quality white set of that level.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiriusCrescent
PLD AoE is actually a lot better than it used to be, I haven't had any issues with low level since they buffed Flash. It helps if you number targets so everyone is attacking the same target, and flashing 3-5 times before moving into your enmity combo on the first target.Quote:
Also, why does Paladin AoE threat suck so much? I hard trouble keeping aggro in Braxsomething Longstop and DD, but Aurum Vale which my whole FC described as a "nightmare" went smooth without me losing aggro once.... I don't get it Q_Q
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05-12-2015, 05:33 AMBluefirefly
VENT: I ran DD today for my 2nd time. The tank army pulls everything, which is fine, but the souls do not go after him and despite not healing and being the farthest back, mobs deliberately seek me out. The tank doesn't even pull anything off me and I die 4 times on the way to boss. Another time, DPS were thrown off a cliff and we all wiped because I had 3 mobs on me for literally no reason. Everyone laughs because it was clearly their fault. We get to the boss and at this point I'm not even taking the run seriously. We wipe 3 times because I'm past the point of caring and DPS can't seem to avoid getting one-shotted. DPS then flip out on ME saying I'M the one who doesn't know how to play my role.
If WHM is always 1st to die and everyone wipes it's the tank's fault. Granted the boss could have gone more smoothly if I wasn't past the point of caring, but don't make a ton of mistakes and then flip out on the new person who at least has an excuse. -
05-12-2015, 06:38 AMCynfael
DD runs have a high mortality rate when the tank is inattentive or unskilled. The mix of ranged mobs with large-AoE melee mobs combined with the terrain makes it easy for any party member to murder the group, actually.
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05-12-2015, 04:25 PMKholdy
When playing WHM, sometimes I get SCH who just DPS 90% of the time then blame me when the healing doesn't cut it. Now, I get that you CAN solo heal coils, and yes in your static you DPS 90% of the time and your WHM can keep up with it. But that doesn't mean you go into a pug group and assume everyone can follow your pace. The first rule of SCH DPS is that you do NOT DPS until your group is comfortable with all mechanics and strategies. This cannot be casually assumed in PF/DF, and especially without even telling the WHM that you are going to mainly DPS. When I go into a pug I assume the pug strategy of each healer focusing on one tank. Yes, I get it, I'm not as good as your WHM with my Diamond Cane and ragtag gear, and I admit that. But instead of adjusting to the group, you refuse to tone down your DPS and heal more, then ragequit after blaming everyone. What are you trying to achieve? Do you not want your gear?
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05-12-2015, 04:56 PMSasealPretty much as Cynfael said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefirefly
I've fallen to those same damn floaty globes plenty of times because they're not picked off. Granted, it's hard to see who a ranged mob is firing at, but when your healer is losing HP quickly, I'd hope a DPS or Tank would notice and start looking around. Rarely does that happen - and I'm forced to spam heals between myself and tank, with majority of the heals interrupted. Now, every time I see them, I sleep them. After so many runs, I hold a special kind of hate for those floaties.
I'm also suspicious that they're healer targeting mob...