The Great FFXIV Exodus of 2024

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Originally Posted by JimCasey_RF6

Woah. Dismantling your submarines and prepping your houses for demolition? Are you sure you want to do that? We don't know each other much but I'd be happy to make a character or two on your server to help you save that aspect of your progress if you want while you are away from the game.

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Thank you for the kind offer, but my submarines are gone already. The plots will get demolished when auto-demo is turned back on and if I get lucky with the timing maybe I will receive some gil for those when the next callback campaign happens. And someone else will get lucky in the lottery. I've given up houses before and each time I've bought one or spent days decorating it I did so with the understanding that one day I would need to let it go.

I also considered giving the subs away, but in the end I didn't want to contribute to SE getting another guaranteed subscription from a new housing hostage or for a fellow player to feel like they are compelled to keep playing because of something I made. I kept my fleet going for almost two years because I really liked building it from scratch and being rewarded for it, but when the game as a whole stopped being enjoyable it became a chore to click through the menus every day. I would look at the game on my pc desktop and not want to log in even for the free gil, and yet I was always keeping a mental record of the demolition timer. It's a relief to not have to deal with it anymore.

That one about having no friends left and the game leaving a bad taste in ones mouth sounds like the endgame experience in a nutshell.

You can't really do PF prog outside of an increasingly narrow window due to people just lying about where they are at and wasting peoples time for days. It got to the point I had to spend an entire weekend and 146 gemdroughts to finally clear m4s, because so many people didn't understand mechanics that the PF description clearly states the group expects people to know.

To make matters worse, I'm seeing the same behavior happen with rather increasing frequency in the latest extreme, which is incredibly problematic since once person messing up the meteors or ice bridge wipes the group.

The content was not built to be some big attrition battle against other players ignorance, it was built to be a group challenge against a puzzle. And without alternatives to this end game loop, it just reinforces this exact behavior in all the other content as well.

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Originally Posted by FlopsyPrince

WoW will have the same problems you note (for you) almost certainly at some point.

No game can keep everything perfect.

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Sure, but SE literally lied about making changes to PCT and not homogenizing jobs anymore, they also have no idea how to balance their game, does WoW have problems? yes absolutely, the community can be really toxic, the balance is wonky, but the game is fun, there is a bunch of content to do and that keeps making me logging in weekly, in XIV there is nothing, i did the savage and even then i literally logged in each week for 2 hours to clear it then i logged out, maybe i did 2-3 expert roulettes to cap my tomestones but that it, so the fact that they charge me 20 goddamn euros (sub + additional retainers) is insane, yet they keep lying and breaking their promises and the community is not good either, they literally white knight the game to oblivion, bunch of "yes-mans" that refuse to believe the truth that SE does not care anymore

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Originally Posted by Astronema

Wow has its own problems. I made a thread here about it but it vanished. They made a horrible anniversary event and have horrible bugs. Portals would dump you to die in the ocean. Imagine dozens players swimming to shore after being dumped for shark food. Not to mention the greed of their online store when it comes to mounts.
That being said, surprisingly hunter has been very fun to play there. I have been making alts there of every job.

the best thing they can for this game is get the beastmaster job done and released. It would give players something to do and it's very fun collecting the pokemon. Collecting spirit beasts in wow has been very enjoyable.

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Its funny, people always say that Blizzard is money hungry company and while i do not deny their questionable choices when bobby was still CEO, SE is really money hungry aswell, 13€ sub for barely any reason to log in except once a week, they literally charge you for bank space (and when you think about just how bad the glamour system is and if you like glamour hoarding then it gets expensive and doing crafting on top of that) so you literally pay around 20€ each month for sub and retainers, XIV also has the mogstation shop, sure its a bit cheaper than blizzards store but they also add stuff there twice as often.

But yeah, its true what you said, there is a lot of bugs, i actually like the anniversary event but i can understand why many dont like it, but the gameplay is fun, the classes and specs are fun an unique, gear is fun and feels impactful and they have the guts to try new stuff and make unique new fights etc. meanwhile XIV has bland jobs, gear that does not matter or doesnt have any cool effect and stuff, fights are repetitive and barely changing, while i do have good memories from XIV, its just not in good state

We'll see if it was worth it all, at the end of the road. Dawntrail, for me, has been the most lackluster out of all of the story content and it has given me the opportunity to pursue other games and return to hobbies that I left collecting dust when I began my journey.
There is no shame in venting your frustrations about the pacing of the game, its content and its hinted direction by SE; if the game has failed your expectations, then come and go as you please and find what makes you happiest. Your time is more valuable than SE's intentions for its customers and the products the customers fell in love with, so use it in whatever means is best to you. If you return, do it with a heart full of intrigue and adventure. If you don't, find your journey out there and be glad in it.

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Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro

How would you know though? You dont do any of the raiding content in this game. You are just a troll lmao.

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But they ain't wrong, i like XIV raids but they are getting boring, every fight is literally: Do this mech perfectly or you wipe, there is barely any RNG that affects how the fight goes, healing is boring since incoming damage is so low, predictable or just one shots you or your group and tanking is boring since the boss almost always dashes middle of the arena for any mech, the tank busters are boring, tank swapping is boring (there is little point to even having a second tank except for 5 second buster swaps then its back for the MT to tank), meanwhile in WoW the fights have really fun and unique mechs, like the current raid there is a boss where 4 or 5 players will leave a mirage that will become a black hole at one point, starting to suck them in, the mirages need to be put in a circle or square spots and the raid needs to stand in the middle of them so they dont get sucked into them since standing between the black holes neutralize their suck but if they are all on 1 side then you just get sucked in really fast, its really cool and fun mech, something that XIV will never have since all they do is: circle AOE, donut AOE, side sweep 1 and 2, light party/healer stacks, partner stacks, spread etc. same thing every damn time

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Originally Posted by Sebs

But they ain't wrong, i like XIV raids but they are getting boring, every fight is literally: Do this mech perfectly or you wipe, there is barely any RNG that affects how the fight goes, healing is boring since incoming damage is so low, predictable or just one shots you or your group and tanking is boring since the boss almost always dashes middle of the arena for any mech, the tank busters are boring, tank swapping is boring (there is little point to even having a second tank except for 5 second buster swaps then its back for the MT to tank), meanwhile in WoW the fights have really fun and unique mechs, like the current raid there is a boss where 4 or 5 players will leave a mirage that will become a black hole at one point, starting to suck them in, the mirages need to be put in a circle or square spots and the raid needs to stand in the middle of them so they dont get sucked into them since standing between the black holes neutralize their suck but if they are all on 1 side then you just get sucked in really fast, its really cool and fun mech, something that XIV will never have since all they do is: circle AOE, donut AOE, side sweep 1 and 2, light party/healer stacks, partner stacks, spread etc. same thing every damn time

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Healing and tanking died the day the game decided that there was only 3 places your health bar could ever be

100%- you haven’t done the mechanic yet
10%- you did the mechanic correctly
0%- you did the mechanic incorrectly or you didn’t mitigate enough

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Originally Posted by Sebs

Its funny, people always say that Blizzard is money hungry company and while i do not deny their questionable choices when bobby was still CEO, SE is really money hungry aswell, 13€ sub for barely any reason to log in except once a week, they literally charge you for bank space (and when you think about just how bad the glamour system is and if you like glamour hoarding then it gets expensive and doing crafting on top of that) so you literally pay around 20€ each month for sub and retainers, XIV also has the mogstation shop, sure its a bit cheaper than blizzards store but they also add stuff there twice as often.

But yeah, its true what you said, there is a lot of bugs, i actually like the anniversary event but i can understand why many dont like it, but the gameplay is fun, the classes and specs are fun an unique, gear is fun and feels impactful and they have the guts to try new stuff and make unique new fights etc. meanwhile XIV has bland jobs, gear that does not matter or doesnt have any cool effect and stuff, fights are repetitive and barely changing, while i do have good memories from XIV, its just not in good state

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The retainer greed of SE really is evil. We should of gotten an extra retainer for free with each expansion. I have like 7 inactive locked away filled into deep storage to the max at 175 with collected glamour items. The failure to give us proper storage for things like materia and dye and tackle seems like a tactic to give them money for the extra retainer space just to keep basic necessities.

Can I have all your stuff?

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Originally Posted by Sebs

Its funny, people always say that Blizzard is money hungry company and while i do not deny their questionable choices when bobby was still CEO, SE is really money hungry aswell

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That's what every company is. CAPCOM, FromSoft, KONAMI, Bethesda, they're all money hungry, they will all do microtransactions, and the only difference between SE and AB is a matter of PR.