With Apologies to Sena Bryer

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

If you're looking for exchange of idea and discussion, than barring extreme case most open forum is decent enough for the purpose.

If you're looking for only validation, an echo chamber will be better suit for that purpose.

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No discrimination/bigotry is usually the #1 rule in almost any decent online space. Nobody wants to deal with that stuff, which is why this sameish sort of thread that was posted on reddit had a much different response. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...e_fandoms_now/

We don't need to take things that far as it benefits no one. This thread is probably going to be deleted anyway, but I truly believe that the echo chamber is currently right here. Have a goodnight!

Oh no, don't give me that.

One does not casually bring something they feel completely unrelated when literal murder it's involved, when the topic it's the claim of supposed threats and then pretend you're not making a relation.

Feel free to live with that headcanon then?

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Originally Posted by Donoman

Well, I know you're happy that you found a safe space where you can spread your hate, lol. How are your views working for you in the other communities? I'm sure you must be insanely popular in them.

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You're the one who sounds like they need a safe space. This is the internet, put on your Big Boy pants, because NEWS FLASH! not everyone is going to agree with you.

Furthermore I will not be compelled to play along with calling a Man a Woman, that isn't hate, that's me using my own common sense.

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Originally Posted by Donoman

How are your views working for you in the other communities?

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Just fine, you seem really upset your cries for censorship aren't taking hold here. Maybe you should go find that safe space you speak of.

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Originally Posted by localareanetwork

Don't put words in my mouth, I'm not comparing it to anything in this thread. I only brought it up because he said nothing has happened before so I wanted to give her some respect.

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People are talking about death threats over voicing an FFXIV character.

Unless your trying to imply that the man who stabbed his wife and two kids to death over a dislike of Stormbloods finer writing points, you should reconsider what your saying because the implications are disgusting.

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Originally Posted by localareanetwork

Don't put words in my mouth, I'm not comparing it to anything in this thread. I only brought it up because he said nothing has happened before so I wanted to give her some respect.

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Sian Blake, Yugiri's old VA, was murdered by her partner, someone that she knew and trusted, NOT some random strangers on the internet. Most murder victims are done-in by people they know and trust instead of random acts of violence or strangers acting on death threats.

Her death had nothing to do with FF14 or its community so mentioning it here in a thread speaking about Wuk Lamat's VA getting death threats and other harrassment is disingenuous since her demise had absolutely no relation to FF14.

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Originally Posted by Dogempire

Sian Blake, Yugiri's old VA, was murdered by her partner, someone that she knew and trusted, NOT some random strangers on the internet. Most murder victims are done-in by people they know and trust instead of random acts of violence or strangers acting on death threats.

Her death had nothing to do with FF14 or its community so mentioning it here in a thread speaking about Wuk Lamat's VA getting death threats and other harrassment is disingenuous since her demise had absolutely no relation to FF14.

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Yes, point taken, I just wanted to bring her up because I felt like saying nothing has happened to a VA before wasn't true and I figured it was moreso paying respects mentioning her, nothing more. My post was unnecessary and not very well written but thank you for at least not assuming I was implying anything or making comparisons. English is not my first language so I missed the finer context of what the first poster I replied to said.

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Originally Posted by ronibosch

Sena is in dire need of a PR representative.

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Nah Just let Sena yap, it'll bite em sooner or later, actual nightmare if you last years posts about women stepping down from (some of these long time of years) roles because Sena thinks all the characters are trans, when Bridget is a guy, and Yamoto is a female groomed into being the son Kaido never had for his heir, but that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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Originally Posted by Donoman

No discrimination/bigotry is usually the #1 rule in almost any decent online space. Nobody wants to deal with that stuff, which is why this sameish sort of thread that was posted on reddit had a much different response. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...e_fandoms_now/

We don't need to take things that far as it benefits no one. This thread is probably going to be deleted anyway, but I truly believe that the echo chamber is currently right here. Have a goodnight!

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The problem is that certain group of people keep labeling disagreements as transphobia and bigotry even when those labels don’t apply.

You’re given an explanation why something isn’t inherently hatful or transphobic. However, instead of engaging in discussion by means of either debate or persuasion, you immediately called it hateful, leaving no rooms for communication and understanding. I personally find it toxic

The same goes to people in other VA threads. Those people keep getting offended on some else’s behalf. They’re given reasons to why people refuse to abide preferred pronouns. Not once did they put any effort in explaining why something is transphobic. They just threw labels around, with no intention of communication and understanding. They not going to change anyone’s mind with that attitude.

People throw labels around on the internet. I’m used to it. However, bigotry, transphobe, and hateful are labels which should not be taken, nor used, lightly because such accusations might potentially get someone banned. That why I vehemently oppose the misuse of these labels. If you really want this forum to be a better place, please stop abusing these terms.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

Vandi channeling their inner titanmen I see. Well done.

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I swear, Titanmen it's like SuperSaiyan already. Just channeling it to ascend.