1.2 Needs to fix Sentinel, Tanking, and XI Class-ism.

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Originally Posted by FilthyDisco

I don't have sentinel and I survive Hellfire every time. Even on my THM with 2557 HP...

Not to mention I've beat ifrit about 20 times now..

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If you've beaten ifrit without sentinel, then at the very least the majority of your party has it most likely. And if they don't Kudos to your group because I find that damn near impossible after 40ish attempts, 20ish practically being flawless until hellfire destroys everyone because of not having sentinel. Sure everyone survives, but getting everything together at that point is hard as hell when everyone is around 700hp trying to heal up, dodge plumes, run from chain erupt and keep tank alive.

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Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze

If you've beaten ifrit without sentinel, then at the very least the majority of your party has it most likely. And if they don't Kudos to your group because I find that damn near impossible after 40ish attempts, 20ish practically being flawless until hellfire destroys everyone because of not having sentinel. Sure everyone survives, but getting everything together at that point is hard as hell when everyone is around 700hp trying to heal up, dodge plumes, run from chain erupt and keep tank alive.

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if your HP isn't under 600, you cant be oneshotted by ifrit circular aoe, the only thing that SHOULD kill you. and again, why aren't you stacking up in the hellfire with the cons precasting curaga 2 to top off asap is beyond me.

change your strategy and you will succeed

you're a joke

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

To help combat the "Sentinel Required" we're taking the approach of hosting 2 types of runs. One being a hardcore run, where specific skills are required, and one being a standard run. Standard run lists helpful skills, but does not require any of our members to actually have them to participate.
Sure the standard parties might have a tougher time, but no one is excluded.

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What's hardcore about asking party to go in easymode?

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Originally Posted by kro

I'm not on your server, but let me put this in perspective for you. Our LS started getting a bunch of applications ever since we beat Ifrit because we were one of the few that were still recruiting on this server.

How many of these applicants will fit well with our small active roster? How many just want a free ride to a win?

Oftentimes I will ask, "Are you willing to level GLA for Sentinel if you want to do Ifrit fights?" The reasoning behind this isn't that the ability is necessary to win. It's to determine whether or not this person values our time enough to make the effort to improve.

So if the guy answers, "No way, I'm a dedicated mage only," then I figure that this guy probably wouldn't be a helpful person in the LS in general.

I'd rather take the guy that only has one job to 50 with the right attitude and teach him how to dodge eruptions. Finding people who want to do a good job is a lot harder than finding people who want free wins.

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I was going to say this very samething. OP think its ok to "gimp" himself/herself but doesn't know what that really says about them.

A reasonable argument. I think the idea that your character can become more versatile through leveling multiple classes is a must keep. But, players should be able to participate in any event without being singled out for not having an ability. Possible solutions could be to change the effects of sentinel as a sub class ability or making it require a shield. This is of course assuming that it is not just a community problem.

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Originally Posted by Raijin

if your HP isn't under 600, you cant be oneshotted by ifrit circular aoe, the only thing that SHOULD kill you. and again, why aren't you stacking up in the hellfire with the cons precasting curaga 2 to top off asap is beyond me.

change your strategy and you will succeed

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Strategy is fine. Point is, without sentinel the fight is nothing but luck. Why in the world would we not be stacked? I don't even think I said anything about not stacking. Precasting curaga is not going to save us from having to run from instant chain erupts + instant sear or plumes right after a hellfire, what you say only works on paper you leave out way too many factors only leaving in the obvious. But you have a point about one thing, our strategy change was this, pl everyones glad to 36 and put ifrit on farm. Everyones glad is now up to date as of today and we'll see how it goes tomorrow.

It's not luck, if you are not willing to level glad to 36 up, then you better the hell enchant your gear with HP+ materias because hellfire only does 2300-2500 with shell2 up.

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Originally Posted by Azurus

^^this...i was actually gonna comment on that fact last night but after reading that post i figured id be better off just sleeping...lol

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But there is a difference between patch one-dot-two and one-dot-twenty. It's not a matter of maths; it's the patch number. :P

HOW about someone run hard mode and win 2/3 times WITHOUT sentinel. THEN tell us how hard they tried and how close they were to losing. THEN we have facts and arguements. OK? ok.