Goodbye strength tanks. Let us never be forgotten.

I'll never forget some dumb Str tanks who use all Str gears in leveling dungeons where their gears get synced. They're a pain in the butt for the healers and forcing them to be in healing stance and cannot attack.

Personally, I had no issue with Strength tanks. I just had to adjust my healing style to mesh with their tanking style.

I feel tanks should have more than one effective stat gearing strategy. Starting tomorrow it seems everyone will just stack Vit. :(

However, with the upcoming changes, I do not think tanks who enjoy doing good dps will be disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Andrea

I will probably get some hate for this comment but.

I feel that the reason more str tanks seemed to know what they were doing instead of vit tanks is because if someone is new to the game and don't know anything about it vit seems like a logic choice to go for as a tank.

Just my opinion on that though.

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No hate at all, Andrea. I feel you are correct. As someone new to the game, I did exactly that on my paladin. (at first)

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Originally Posted by BreyVoreas93

It's not been stated that their will be a dps loss. I actually don't believe their will be if it works like they've stated. Guess we'll see:)

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Except it has been, in one of Yoshi's recent interviews I believe. It was stated that 3.2 VIT tanks will do less damage than 3.15 STR tanks, hence why they upped the enmity generation on all the tank stances, to make up for the loss of DPS.

How extreme this dps loss will be is what we don't know. Could be relatively major or incredibly minor, we'll know in several hours.

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

I feel tanks should have more than one effective stat gearing strategy.

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Nail. On the head. :3

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Originally Posted by Andrea

Funny you should say that as when talking about un-equipping your job stone you told me this.



So for Job stones its ok to gimp yourself, but for gear its not?

You also claimed that people would start vote kicking people due to gear not meeting standards..but here you are calling every strength tank bad...?

Then theres also this gem on people complaining about people gimping themselves....

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Lol I knew you would bring up my previous posts. Guess I should have put rude in sarcasm quotes. Instead of actually defending STR tanks you just attack me personally. Does this mean you actually agree with me that STR tanks are bad? Cause so far you haven't provided proof of the opposite...

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Originally Posted by Ironos

Except it has been, in one of Yoshi's recent interviews I believe. It was stated that 3.2 VIT tanks will do less damage than 3.15 STR tanks, hence why they upped the enmity generation on all the tank stances, to make up for the loss of DPS.

How extreme this dps loss will be is what we don't know. Could be relatively major or incredibly minor, we'll know in several hours.

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My guess is the new tank dps will be similar to tanks wearing all crafted str accessories right now since they wanted to address the issue of tanks needing to invest millions into crafted accessories for the hard raids to have an advantage. Won't be a huge drop if this is the case.

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Originally Posted by raymon

in that case would it not be too early to claim a R.I.P thread is needed? you yourself said we have no idea what the scaling is yet.

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No because as stated, you WILL be doing less damage if you stick with str accessories. The RIP thread is for STR accs. How hard is that to grasp.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...802-10-2016%29
"From Patch 3.2 onward, allocating points to vitality will help tanks deal more damage. Because of this change, you'll be dealing less damage if you’re using strength accessories after the patch, so please have your vitality accessories ready."

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph

Lol I knew you would bring up my previous posts. Guess I should have put rude in sarcasm quotes. Instead of actually defending STR tanks you just attack me personally. Does this mean you actually agree with me that STR tanks are bad? Cause so far you haven't provided proof of the opposite...

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...and you've only proven in this thread that you tend to talk out your arse.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph

Lol I knew you would bring up my previous posts. Guess I should have put rude in sarcasm quotes. Instead of actually defending STR tanks you just attack me personally. Does this mean you actually agree with me that STR tanks are bad? Cause so far you haven't provided proof of the opposite...

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You haven't brought up any points to contest, really. Anecdotal evidence (ie, "This one time a STR tank died and it was really bad :c") does not pass as evidence as there is no proof it encompasses the whole and there is no way to argue with that. While ad hominem/poisoning the well is a fallacy as well, it was pointing out you held a different position on a similar matter; it has no bearing on STR tanks but it does point out you're willing to say anything to try and win the argument.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph

Lol I knew you would bring up my previous posts. Guess I should have put rude in sarcasm quotes. Instead of actually defending STR tanks you just attack me personally. Does this mean you actually agree with me that STR tanks are bad? Cause so far you haven't provided proof of the opposite...

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Are all you posts sarcastic then?

Wouldn't call it attacking you more asking why you feel one is ok while the other isn't.

If I want to attack you i'd insult you directly not by trying to discuss something.

Also on your question I don't believe either vit or str tanks are 'bad'