So Second Coil has been destroyed

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People have a better chance to clear the second coil now that there is a curve. At least, I do see myself putting more effort in learning t9 now, instead of giving up because no one is forming learning parties for the second coil anyway.

People are afraid because ''casuals'' will stain their reputation. Please, by the time everyone get the experience the final coil, the expansion and the next tier is out.

The vision is the same, but just because there are less one shot mechanics barely changes anything.

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This is no "better chance", this is a free win handed to you. They completely nerfed all the mechanics; you can ignore the majority of them with no consequence.

Why do you want to do the content in the first place? You want the gear? If you can't down second coil, then sidegrade gear isn't going to help you win something you couldn't win before. You want the challenge? Well, that's completely gone now. What is there to gain now? Where is the fun?

The vision is not the same. The content is an absolute joke now. You get to experience the fight sure, but you got to experience it before too; nothing was stopping you. Now, it's just a joke and you don't get to have a challenge. This is a good thing how?

Okay guys pulling raff.
"Blighted"
WHOOPS Oh well healer will heal me
FF to 42%
Don't push phases honey is still out!
Phase is pushed, it's okay guys, no more hornets come out.
NO WHAT ARE YOU DOING, you didn't have to kill yourself in acid rain.
It's okay guys, we don't have to do ss meet a dps check anymore.
*How I cleared t6 for the first time*

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Originally Posted by AdamFyi

This is more to the player-caused strategies having a risk. The intended method was to have only one Renaud up at any point in time, and to kill them once shriek goes off. The four-stack Renaud strategy was probably something that they didn't expect players would create and the timing of the skills during the fight weren't balanced for it. :x

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That's not the issue. The problem is not the stacking, it's the fact that between one Voice and the next, more than 30 seconds passes. This means that even if you DON'T stack and only use 1 Renaud at a time, that Renaud is going to get free before the next Voice and kill everyone. Unless you kill him first, but then you have no shelter from Shriek.

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

True enough. It's just that, as a player, I would feel ashamed to clear SCoB NOW.

All those nerfs mean is SE basically saying: "Ok guys, it seems you are bad and you cannot clear Coil with its intended level of difficulty. Here, let me unlock Easy Mode for you."

I don't know, I would NOT be happy myself if I still had to clear it. But I guess people are different.

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... you're still missing that t9 remains unchanged. It's still a wall, a wall that needs time and effort, at least until further notice. Moreover, turn 5 is still a wall for other people, because it will has 1 shot mechanics despite the echo, and if someone dies it's pretty much GG.

people forget 120 gears are out now. Scob is a little bit easier now even without the changes... so it is not the same as before anyway.

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Originally Posted by RinKaen

*How I cleared t6 for the first time*

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Not really any different from T1/2 that has been going on for months.
"What are slimes?"
"What is rot?"

Gee this all sounds familiar...

5. Adding The Binding Coil of Bahamut to Duty Finder and giving it Echo: Hardcore endgame raiders were up in arms over this. "How dare the plebians be able to access our content? They do not deserve even T3! Now anyone can roll through it like a level 90 WoW players runs through Molten Core! Twintania will be as difficult as the first mob you kill in the game!" Many players quit the game at this point, causing SE to take the servers offline because the game was no longer profitable.

9. Adding Second Coil of Bahamut to Duty Finder and giving it Echo: Hardcore endgame raiders were up in arms over this. "How dare the plebians be able to access our content? They do not deserve even T7! Now anyone can roll through it like level 90 WoW players runs through Molten Core! Nael Deus Darnus will be as difficult as the first mob you kill in the game!" Many players have announced that they quit the game at this point, causing SE to take the servers offline because the game will be no longer profitable.

I really should update the death list references for WoD. And yes, I know the two end bosses didn't get nerfed.

I should probably fix the future tense on the second to be present text.

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Originally Posted by Crevox

This is no "better chance", this is a free win handed to you. They completely nerfed all the mechanics; you can ignore the majority of them with no consequence.

Why do you want to do the content in the first place? You want the gear? If you can't down second coil, then sidegrade gear isn't going to help you win something you couldn't win before. You want the challenge? Well, that's completely gone now. What is there to gain now? Where is the fun?

The vision is not the same. The content is an absolute joke now. You get to experience the fight sure, but you got to experience it before too; nothing was stopping you. Now, it's just a joke and you don't get to have a challenge. This is a good thing how?

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you are the Zen master of what the majority of people in this thread are trying to get through to people

These fights are like 8 months old. The # of players yet to clear vastly outnumber those that did. SE wants to keep it moving for everyone, not the small minority that will reclear it in i130 gear for nostalgia.

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Originally Posted by subteraneanbird

Towers are a joke now because people can take an extra stack of Languishing. There is no challenge in that respect.

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They can get a 2nd stack, so what? They will still be taking increased damage for pushing the tower a second time. Pushing the tower a second time before the nerfs would cause you to be near-death or be instantly killed if you were not a tank. As people geared up, people could still survive a second stack. The damage reduction may not be as significant as people claim it to be. They still will be taking amplified damage, and they will get another stack on Languishing. We just have to wait for the servers to come out before we can actually say anything. :x