Now that leves will be gone from our main exp function...

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Originally Posted by Black_Rose

personaly, i don't know what to expect.
we know that leve-linking will award less SP, but not how much less.
at the same time tho we'll be able to get SP awards for completing leves solo.
one thing is sure, group leves will award less, but that's not the only change we'll see in 1.18, there will be the raid dungeons that might just give us the right amount of SP we need to level at a decent pace, then the NPC quests that will also reward SP with 1.18.

i think SE just wants to draw the attention of us to all aspects of the game as quests, leves, grinding & raids.
which i think is a great idea, tbh. all i did the past months were leves & crafting (and from time to time NMs.)
i didn't touch many NPC quests yet aswell.

i don't belive leveling will get slower, just more entertaining at last.

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This I will agree with. It seems many of us, including myself, havn't disversified MMO playing. From what my friend has mentioned about WOW is that you get exp from doing quests? Which seems a heck of a lot more fun than just grinding at mobs. And it just seems that the devs are trying to get people out and have fun (which is what a game should be about in the first place). And maybe nerfing leve linking is a way to do that. To get people to diversify?

If they are truely going to be giving SP for doing quests and completion of leves...I would hope that maybe they would add more story and lore behind these? (I know everyone hates this reference but like I said I don't know of many other games other than WOW that my friend told me about). She mentioned that there is some story behind the quests that you run around doing? So maybe they will have some sort of quests that tie into each other to put some more meat into the game? IDK...That would be a great idea to make leveling more enjoyable instead of "Here help me kill X because X camp is being over-run"...maybe a few little short clips to go along with it? That would be fun to me and make leveling more enjoyable...Just a thought :)

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Originally Posted by Gath

I never said that grinding mobs should be extremely easy, I am referring to when they change everything, mashing buttons right now just teaches you how to mash buttons, there are no actual stable algorithms for the mechanics, the stats aren't where they should be, but when the game finally has all that fixed, then, the abilities, which will practically be new/redefined will need learning, and grinding on mobs that are harder than easy will help with that. Even the few NMs we have only offer any sort of learning through button mashing, and again, all you learn to do is mash buttons...

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IN regards to this converstation that took place...
To me, partying does help you learn about your job and how to work it...
The downfall however is, it doesn't seem like in this game you need a whole lot of skill in order to fight...I mean the debuffs on THM and CON seem kind of useless from what I've tried to do with me and my husband...it just seems easier to have my husband just tank and spank while I spam cure and the occasional "boom" magic sparklies...

I would think they would need to actually make some monsters similar to STR and weaknesses in XI (it's the only games I know). Where you would for example maybe have Crawlers weak to Dia since they have an enormous amount of DEF. Then stack it with some of the debuffs to help with the HP depletion while still having someone hold the hate and others doing damage to bring the HP down quicker... instead of just having the mob go down in the blink of an eye.

It just seems Mob toughness and weakness is extremely unbalanced in this game (from what I have played of it so far)...
Or it may just be me and I havn't gotten to some other areas with tougher mobs? IDK, pleaes correct me if I am mistaken.

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Originally Posted by LillithaFenimore

It just seems Mob toughness and weakness is extremely unbalanced in this game (from what I have played of it so far)...
Or it may just be me and I havn't gotten to some other areas with tougher mobs? IDK, pleaes correct me if I am mistaken.

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That is THE problem imo, it's a balancing issue. SP is capped at a 10 rank difference as if mobs of equal rank are relatively difficult to kill, but they're not, they die if you look at them cross-eyed. So one of two things needs to happen, they need to knock 10 ranks off of every mob to bring mob rank in line with player rank, or they need to raise the rank difference cap for SP.

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Originally Posted by Naqaj

What's keeping you from doing it?

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I do grind mobs, my ARC hit 50 by grinding on mobs at different levels, barely did leves, took about 3.5 weeks to hit 50 that way.

new post from YoshiP about the changes being made for the guildleve's etc. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post208615