Server character positional checks have literally nothing to do with skill. You can be ON TOP of someone and not hit them due to a system error that is beyond player control - no matter how good or bad they are. This is the cause for why most melee players may be frustrated and it does need to be fixed. That being said, I disagree with the idea that 'Melee Sucks'. WAR / PLD / MNK / DRG are potentially solid PvP choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lecreuset
PVP, and how Gimped MELEE is.
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12-19-2013, 09:31 AMLongNu
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12-19-2013, 10:02 AMyuixjfaWell, I just had to. I play with Japanese people (being on a Japanese server) almost 100% of the time and it's frustrating to see people sit through a whole duration of sleep...Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinemight
That being said, I don't believe melee are truley gimped but some of the classes outside of Monk can use a bit of tweaking. -
12-19-2013, 10:11 AMDenzelTaru
just tried PVP (granted DFing) and 2 things happened on my jobs..
SCH - i died pretty much instantly.. i was kiting, getting slowed stunned.. blah blah
WAR - everyone died but me..
its PVH (player vs healer) not PVP and really wasnt fun.. as i said to a friend its not even a sore loser attitude i pvp'd on Dark Souls and losses just taught me how to play better and i enjoyed it.. this is just ridiculous -
12-19-2013, 10:21 AMZaelC
Melees in general are fine, the pvp is based on teams so if you get too much sleep or debuffs you can ask your healer to remove them.
The only real issue I find seriously annoying as a melee is that our skills get canceled if our opponent is jumping, its ridiculous that you can't even hit someone if he is jumping in circles around his place, they not even have to sprint or do anything, just spam jump to cancel 9/10 of your hits. Now every caster uses this tactic to get rid of melees and we are powerless against it. If they fix this I won't find any other problem as a melee in PvP, and if they don't then I probably wont go to pvp. -
12-19-2013, 10:39 AMParodine
I've run about 71 matches, won about 52 of them all on SMN, and I'm having fun, but I can see why melee may not be. Healers: you guys are brave yo. I've met some awesome Scholars and White Mages holding their shiz together the entire match. I'm less tired of the tactics and more tired of the map. Even if they had two other maps, if it was a random assignment to one each time it'd keep things a little fresher. Hopefully in the future they'll add more.
As for dealing with sleep, #1 ability you need to get first is Purify. It'll get you out of one sleep quick enough. After that, you'll at least have resistance built for it to only last 15 seconds. And learn any heavy/bind abilities you can. SMN can wreck parties with Miasma/MiasmaII because of the weight/healing reducting, but plenty of good players have caught up to me and blasted me down in a matter of seconds because of smart use of that. -
12-19-2013, 11:37 AMPibz
I have done 70 something matches and to all of you saying things are fine as it is.. don't.
A caster team is just ridiculous(and i have won against them more than once) cc everywhere, sleep in particular is insane, 30s cd you use purify - 15s ok you wait it out,
come some other 30s or so after that -> sleep 30s again, this is balanced to you, really?!
All the other ccs are just fine right now, and don't start with materia and stuff because pvp shouldn't be balanced just at the top.
Asides from that the whole mechanic of it needs work right now its just cc cc cc kite kite kite kite cc cc cc kite kite kite(you get the idea). Probably remove sprint and let casters not get interrupted on every single attack, more like 50% or 70% chance of cast going through.
I'm having fun, but i can understand that some people aren't. -
12-19-2013, 11:41 AMDoo
I came from DCUO and Neverwinter. The pvp in this game is terribleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Seriously terrible stuff
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Originally Posted by Pibz
I don't know if JPs know how to do pvp. FFXI wasn't that good also.