VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

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Originally Posted by LittleArrow

I just wanted to give feedback on Viera Female hairstyles in general that I've been seeing.

PLEASE please pretty please lengthen bangs on all added Viera Female hairstyles. I know you all adjusted their headshapes to make it easier to put hair on them, but it's created a REALLY glaring issue in that ALL added hairstyles have SUPER short bangs.

Every hairstyle the Viera Female's bangs are about 1-2inches shorter than everyone else (even Elezen which also has a similar problem). It's noticeable in the tall tails ponytail as well (bangs sit above the eyebrows while with everyone else it's slightly below). This in turn has created a sort of 'egghead' shape (oval / wide around eyebrow and thins as it goes to the top of the head) with most hairstyles.

I know SE, you probably won't go back and fix the ones you've done, but please going forward, lengthen Viera Female's bangs!!!

Thank you <3

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Please stop spreading misinformation, they literally did not change the head shapes in any capacity.

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Originally Posted by LittleArrow

I just wanted to give feedback on Viera Female hairstyles in general that I've been seeing.

PLEASE please pretty please lengthen bangs on all added Viera Female hairstyles. I know you all adjusted their headshapes to make it easier to put hair on them, but it's created a REALLY glaring issue in that ALL added hairstyles have SUPER short bangs.

Every hairstyle the Viera Female's bangs are about 1-2inches shorter than everyone else (even Elezen which also has a similar problem). It's noticeable in the tall tails ponytail as well (bangs sit above the eyebrows while with everyone else it's slightly below). This in turn has created a sort of 'egghead' shape (oval / wide around eyebrow and thins as it goes to the top of the head) with most hairstyles.

I know SE, you probably won't go back and fix the ones you've done, but please going forward, lengthen Viera Female's bangs!!!

Thank you <3

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I would LOVE to be able to tweak several of the hairstyles as there are quite a few that just don't look right to me (either the forehead is giant, the fringe is too long/short, egghead, etc). Sadly, this isn't just a Viera issue, although some of the newer additions highlights our lovely foreheads a bit too much. lol

Not ALL of them are like this. I can't even find one that is. The Lyse hairstyle actually has longer bangs on Viera than it does on Au'ra. You have to take into account that eyebrow height is not the same on every race and it will give certain illusions that may or may not be accurate. Some Viera happen to have very low/small eyebrows which gives the impression that bangs are shorter when they actually aren't. Some hairlines should be adjusted on male Viera especially but bangs length is certainly not the most glaring problem if you actually compare side-by-side. It frustrates me that people go "so and so hair looks X on Viera" without even examining the way they look on other races. Most hairstyles that look funky also look funky on everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Heavenchild

I like it that they start to adjust more hairstyles. But to be honest the lack of headgear is the much bigger problem, than die hair. For me it felt always like 'not belonging to', because so many things does not work.
For example most of the fun-glamour from little events does not work, also some of these Garo sets, which look really weird without the helmets.

I gave up and switched back to my Miqoboy. Miqofaces are not so well designed yet, as vierafaces are, but at least I feel like 'being part of the gang' again, and can use everything.

I am excitetd how my boy will look after graphics update. :D

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Male viera is arguable, so I get it, but female viera simply look better than the other races, so it's better not to be a part of that "gang" anyway. Ever since viera came out I always felt the opposite when I wasn't playing viera; I was a viera player, even when I wasn't actively playing it. Since day one, part of that "gang" instead.

It would be nice if viera could use event headgear, and I think they should make a different variant if they aren't going to fit them, otherwise viera/hrothgar players effectively get nothing. Not that I won't admit bias, since I don't really like hats anyway.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Male viera is arguable, so I get it, but female viera simply look better than the other races, so it's better not to be a part of that "gang" anyway. Ever since viera came out I always felt the opposite when I wasn't playing viera; I was a viera player, even when I wasn't actively playing it. Since day one, part of that "gang" instead.

It would be nice if viera could use event headgear, and I think they should make a different variant if they aren't going to fit them, otherwise viera/hrothgar players effectively get nothing. Not that I won't admit bias, since I don't really like hats anyway.

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Heavensturn is effectively not an event for this reason. The only reward for doing the event is a hat that you can't wear and a piece of furniture for a house most people can't get. Great event Square!

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

Heavensturn is effectively not an event for this reason. The only reward for doing the event is a hat that you can't wear and a piece of furniture for a house most people can't get. Great event Square!

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To be fair, nobody ever wears those kabutos. They're kinda just a collectible trophy, and this year was the last one to complete all 12 zodiac signs, so maybe they'll give out new rewards that even Viera and Hroths can use next year onwards.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Male viera is arguable, so I get it, but female viera simply look better than the other races, so it's better not to be a part of that "gang" anyway. Ever since viera came out I always felt the opposite when I wasn't playing viera; I was a viera player, even when I wasn't actively playing it. Since day one, part of that "gang" instead.

It would be nice if viera could use event headgear, and I think they should make a different variant if they aren't going to fit them, otherwise viera/hrothgar players effectively get nothing. Not that I won't admit bias, since I don't really like hats anyway.

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I really like headgear. uwu
What you mean is your personal taste. I don't think that female Viera are more pretty than other females like Miqogirls or Au'ra and so on. Thats just a matter of personal taste.
But the 'later races' are better made. Better texture, better details, better animations for example in the face. Thats what I meant.
And I think SE will do something for the older races with the graphics update. : D

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Originally Posted by Allegor

To be fair, nobody ever wears those kabutos. They're kinda just a collectible trophy, and this year was the last one to complete all 12 zodiac signs, so maybe they'll give out new rewards that even Viera and Hroths can use next year onwards.

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Ive seen a few people wear them, but it is very rare, and they (or the ones Ive seen) can look and work well in glamour

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Originally Posted by Heavenchild

I really like headgear. uwu
What you mean is your personal taste. I don't think that female Viera are more pretty than other females like Miqogirls or Au'ra and so on. Thats just a matter of personal taste.
But the 'later races' are better made. Better texture, better details, better animations for example in the face. Thats what I meant.
And I think SE will do something for the older races with the graphics update. : D

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Don't get me wrong, I think the one face of miqo'te I played and my specific au ra look are also pretty good, but female viera are definitely prettier! ;)

I know what you meant, with the graphical update. Some people have speculated that the older races might get their face-lift sooner even. I'd still rather play viera though.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Makes me wonder/hope if that implies both races will get new hairstyles 'on time' from now on

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I don't see why not... IIRC they mentioned that Viera males were built without the modelling limitation that females had when it came to adding new hairstyles, and they fixed the females eventually (I assume that Hroth too), so I presume that from now on they are going to be included.

Lyse's hair got added for Viera girls too, so there's that proof as well, even before these two.