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10-26-2022, 07:53 AM
AscendentBlue

So this is what is vexing people today? REALLY?????
People really need to get some perspective.....
10-26-2022, 07:55 AM
Shibi

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

SE its always right and they made the best game ever in the history of MMO'S

I can hear your muttley-esque snicker from here!
10-26-2022, 07:59 AM
Renalt

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Originally Posted by AscendentBlue

So this is what is vexing people today? REALLY?????
People really need to get some perspective.....

It's getting cold out even in AZ so we got some fires going.

Yo anyway does anyone want a Smore?
10-26-2022, 08:01 AM
Xeronia

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Originally Posted by AshDidit

Wasn't gifting crysta the whole reason they originally created it?

Nope, it has no gift option. it is just an alternative to pay for stuff. To my understanding people who have had issues with card changes tend to now use Crysta as it doesn't auto-renewal and you have to add it yourself. It has never had a gift option either.
10-26-2022, 08:11 AM
AshDidit

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Being shut out of the big payment providers like visa or mastercard would be a massive hit to any business. OnlyFans was on the verge of disallowing explicit content entirely on their platform because of pressure from payment service providers.

Visa and MC would not shut out SE over chargebacks. They would lose millions, if not billions in fees. They're not given to stupid moves.
I have a friend who works at one of them and I can tell you from first hand knowledge, what they do is:

require companies incurring more than X % threshold of chargebacks to strengthen their verification processes.

And this is literally what SE did NOT do.

So, I feel that this is not about chargebacks at all.
I feel this isn't even about RMT at all.
Because, SE said clearly, the RMT activity will continue.

Not 'can' continue, not 'might' continue... but -will-.
So, it's impossible that this is a 'fix' for RMT.
10-26-2022, 09:26 AM
Axious

Wonder if Square was in a tough spot with the recent “cyber attacks”.

Maybe they did this for a step to help people from being robbed blind.

“Oh no my account was hacked and someone gifted an account (insert $100s of dollars of mog station items)”

If that’s the case. Good job in helping your customers!
10-26-2022, 09:45 AM
Gember

There is a post on twitter by Lady Xhiel White, or @Miss_Xhiel . She made a post regarding why such actions were taken, and its related back with SE giving out the update for everyone to update their passwords due to breaches. Its EXACTLY about that, and the fact that doing ton of purchases revokes will get the companies processing said transactions to ban the company for having these problems.

I honestly recommend anyone who is curious to look it up and read it. (Its 15 tweets.) Its all legal stuff; and I think it'll help with some confusion. I don't like how things are happening, but it is what it is.
10-26-2022, 10:07 AM
Deceptus

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Originally Posted by AshDidit

SO you've basically punished the law/rule abiding players for what criminals have done

But... you ADMIT that the criminals will CONTINUE doing it?

And you've limited what we can give to our friends (of 72 hours or more) to the most ridiculous 'gift' items you sell? So.. I can no longer give my bestie a minion because some RMT scumbag bought one and resold it in game for gil? GIL?! PIXEL MONEY?

I am being restricted... over pixel money... and other people's criminal behavior that you ADMIT OPENLY they are still ABLE TO DO?

Why did you not just make it so that the items can only be bought with credit cards and make it so those credit cards have to match exactly the name and address on the account buying it?

THAT would have actually LESSENED the RMT activity of using 'stolen credit cards' to RMT mog items...

That would reduce the number of people reselling items because it can be immediately tracked back to the player...

All your 'fix' does is punish those of us who would never abuse the system to begin with.

A complete 'jerk move'. I do not approve. Let me give my friends minions again.

#freetheminions
sheesh

100% support. It sucks that legitimate players get punished for rule breaking behavior.

EVEN MORE SO WHEN THEY ADMIT IT'S POINTLESS.
10-26-2022, 10:22 AM
Atelier-Bagur

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

100% support. It sucks that legitimate players get punished for rule breaking behavior.

EVEN MORE SO WHEN THEY ADMIT IT'S POINTLESS.

https://twitter.com/Miss_Xhiel/statu...57930184790021 some lite reading
10-26-2022, 10:36 AM
Axious

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Originally Posted by Gember

There is a post on twitter by Lady Xhiel White, or @Miss_Xhiel . She made a post regarding why such actions were taken, and its related back with SE giving out the update for everyone to update their passwords due to breaches. Its EXACTLY about that, and the fact that doing ton of purchases revokes will get the companies processing said transactions to ban the company for having these problems.

I honestly recommend anyone who is curious to look it up and read it. (Its 15 tweets.) Its all legal stuff; and I think it'll help with some confusion. I don't like how things are happening, but it is what it is.

Glad I’m not the only conspiracist around lol.

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