Great post as always, but I really wish at the very least that was the case with Savage. It might just be the first tier but tanks had absolutely nothing to do in Savage. The minimal P3s repositioning and dragging the boss to Fire-Electric tile for door boss does not constitute to sufficient gameplay. Even DSR has very little for T/H outside planning mitigations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quor
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06-21-2022, 06:39 PMbutchersblock
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06-21-2022, 10:06 PMSaberMaxwell
I'd want more positioning in content if boss movement were any more... well, workable. As it is, they move with a weird sort of momentum where you need to super outrange them to get them to move with any pep, and even then they so frequently stop to cast anything from busters to mechanics that it's more annoying than anything to ever have to move a boss.
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06-21-2022, 10:51 PMHanayumi
So what will folks do if/when devs decidedly do nothing about the job changes? Theyve really shown no signs of letting up, where any other mistakes gets a quick and lengthy "Sorry" and explaination, but we get little nothing on the why for job changes? Time to move on from this game or despite the unyielding complaints, continue on playing?
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06-22-2022, 12:08 AMNizziI'll continue to take long breaks throughout EW like I did during ShB, try the new content occasionally, continue to scream into the void on these forums when I'm subbed and other websites about how the direction of job changes is very bad and unfun, and then if they triple down on this for healers in 7.0, I'm quitting the game permanently. I'm still here at the moment because I have friends and loved ones who play and I still do enjoy the story and side content, but I am rapidly becoming burnt out on the battle content which was previously the draw for me. I can't treat this game like an anime dress up chatroom like a lot can, though I do enjoy doing that on occasion, so if they continue to ignore the aspects of the game I love and act as if they know better, I'm out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanayumi
The frequency at which I post and complain on these forums may make it seem like I'm a miserable person who hates the game, but in reality I still do love it and just wish the best for it, which is why I bother spending my time here posting so I can at least say that I tried to boost things I wanted the developers to see. I do not love the game enough to continue to pay for it at the rate they're burning through my good will though, and I have no issue with Endwalker being my WoL's end. -
06-22-2022, 02:41 AMshao32
As a HW DRK who suffer Devs team indiference on SB, especially SHB and despite the recent update of living dead, being complety ignored on EW wishes for the job and threads against the current direction on SHB yeah expect the dev team say nothing at all no matter how much your threads get support and stay active like DRK ones, SAM is a DPS so there is way more chances they end listen to you but coming from a job complety negleted along with others for years just expect the worse, if they don't change it they will force you to dealt with it until everyone around you is no longer a SAM main that remember Kaiten.
As an idiot who stay despite all what they did to my fav job and what they keep doing bcs im a damm masoquist and i fell in the housing trap i recomend you leave if you got nothing for SAM or whatever job who get screw for no reason, it's not really worth at all, once the Dev team is determinated to force a change deep in your throat it won't matter how much you want it back they will go full hitler and answer you with silence and "we are doing our best" kind of general coments like everything is going well, still i wish you luck to all of you this 1 of july, as i say being a DPS may grant you more chances to happen but if not just leave, it's not going back. -
06-22-2022, 02:55 AMCelestiCerI relate to this in so many ways. Only a few things are keeping me in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzi
- Friends
- Decorations
- Community service
Talked about a topic very recently that can be summed up as " What makes Combat Satisfying? "
And the phrase I came up with, with the help of " Rankin " was
" Being allowed to Fail, will make Succeeding feel Better ".
Love hitting positionals for example. Or Kaiten execution. Can you fail both? Yes. Or in the case of Kaiten removal, you " could" . Even though it matters little in the grand scheme of things, being allowed to do those tiny mess-ups, right? feels right. It confirms that it feels good. " I greeded that, yes! " my mind goes landing positional.
Removing all of these tiny things, these nuances, means we remove the possibility to fail. Less and Less Job complexity, no matter what job is the discussion point. Less complex rotations, less complex resource managing, perhaps soon no more positional bonuses. The game will tell you instead:
You're doing it Right ! / You're doing it Right ! You're doing it Right !
Meaning I can never make those mistakes no more, it's made bland, its made boring, for what? Balancing? Convenience? Damage variance? Accessibility to what and for who when you can clear content without performing these tiny nuances right?
In my mind I keep trying to fish, but no matter how high on copium I am I am fishing in thin air. There's nothing to catch. Call me blind on that, cause that's how I view it. That's how I feel my gameplay being. Becoming bland, boring to fix and improve nothing. -
06-22-2022, 03:58 PMdarkdyllonwhere was this energy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neoyoshi
for starters, Yoshi didn't directly ask for feedback, which made more think "who cares, they don't" now he asked specifically so more crawl out of the woodwork and start posting (a decent amount specifically made an forum account specifically for this)
on the other hand, apart from healers which they have adressed live on an LL it generally wasn't so bad that it required an outburst like this.
sure it's only 1 skill, but an skill loved by the entire SAM community, imagine if Leylines were randomly removed from BLM (not gonna happen because Yoshi plays that job but details) you can be sure the BLM community would be in an uproar aswel.
people are actively speaking out on the monk/summoner rework and a good portion of that is negative, which is refreshing.
overal, i think that it's becoming clear what they're doing, instead of adding depth and raising the skill ceiling, they're actively lowering it, this is being noticed by other jobs like monk and summoner, where monks whole skill expression was how well you could bop and weave inbetween mechanics and still get your positionals in, or that complicated puzzle that was Summoner, while summoner wasn't hard once you've learned it, it was difficult to learn in itself.
i recently heard from my static that apparently they're aiming to nerf DSU a bit and i lost my shit, their response was "aslong as we clear right?" but to me that would be an major kick in the balls, since i love how difficult it is, nerfing that would basically just rob me on my sense of accomplishment from actually clearing THE hardest fight in the game, i don't care about the title, weapon or achievement that comes with it, i want to be satisfied and i honestly can't say for sure if i will knowing full well they've nerfed that fight before i could clear it, i will still be hyped, for sure, but the victory will be an bitter sweet 1. -
06-22-2022, 07:38 PMMortexIf they nerf dsu I would actually lose my faith in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkdyllon
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06-22-2022, 08:20 PMKDSilverSame here.Quote:
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06-22-2022, 08:50 PMAmenaraWell I am diverting my sub from FF14 to FF11 and saving a couple bucks and I am having a blast playing it right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanayumi