Pulling wall to wall isn't fast enough?

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

I don't subscribe to such a toxic mentality. If the DPS wants to pull then they should queue as tank then. Could always use more tanks. Or could it be that they want the ability to Dictate how the Tank should tank while putting all the blame and responsibility on the Tank if they're unable to adjust to their "Go, Go, Go" mentality? Seems to be the case based off the replies in this topic.

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Talking about "toxic mentality" while going on a ego trip about how he is the most important person in a group. Classic.

I literally quoted you answering your own question. The responsibility is why. People don't want to potentially be blamed for things weather its their fault or not.
Healer/Tank anxiety is 100% real.

You keep saying that tanking is a hard role but you don't present any information to actually back up your statement. What makes it harder?

I'm still new to the game and new to tanking. I hate just running thru everything. I go at my speed, I'm sorry if it's too slow for some people. you are welcome to run ahead and pull the whole dungeon. But when you die don't complain, I'm going as fast as I can handle. Not everyone has the same skill set, Sorry I'm not as good as you, But I will do the best I can.

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Originally Posted by Warpstone

I'm still new to the game and new to tanking. I hate just running thru everything. I go at my speed, I'm sorry if it's too slow for some people. you are welcome to run ahead and pull the whole dungeon. But when you die don't complain, I'm going as fast as I can handle.

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And that's alright! Them dying is a clear sign to them that you can't handle what they are doing. But if no one dies from it then there's no harm.

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

Talking about "toxic mentality" while going on a ego trip about how he is the most important person in a group. Classic.

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Says the person who has posted since the start of this how much they hate tanks and love to disrespect them and how you don't wait for Sprouts to finish their cutscene.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

I literally quoted you answering your own question. The responsibility is why. People don't want to potentially be blamed for things weather its their fault or not.
Healer/Tank anxiety is 100% real.

You keep saying that tanking is a hard role but you don't present any information to actually back up your statement. What makes it harder?

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Then they shouldn't be doing the Tank's job. The Tank pulls what they are comfortable with. If the group doesn't agree then they can leave or be a Tank themselves. How is it fair that THEY get to dictate how a Tank is supposed to Tank yet all the responsibility and blame falls on the Tank?

It's simple. People are afraid to Tank because they have seen toxic DPS so blatantly disrespect Tanks and cause wipes while it all falls on the Tank for not adjusting to the standards the DPS sets even if the Tank isn't ready for said standards yet.

So yes. It is extremely rude in Randos for a DPS to decide that they know better than the Tank and force the Tank to play how THEY want instead of letting the Tank tank at a level they're confident with.

Let the Tank tank - don't force a Tank to fall under a standard that the DPS believes is best. It isn't fair to the Tank. If the DPS isn't satisfied with the Tanks performance then they have options such as leaving and taking that penalty and 10-15 minute queue.

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Originally Posted by Warpstone

I'm still new to the game and new to tanking. I hate just running thru everything. I go at my speed, I'm sorry if it's too slow for some people. you are welcome to run ahead and pull the whole dungeon. But when you die don't complain, I'm going as fast as I can handle. Not everyone has the same skill set, Sorry I'm not as good as you, But I will do the best I can.

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You tank at a pace that you're comfortable with. If you don't think you can handle w2w then don't. A wipe takes far more time then a non-wipe.

So did you forget what you were arguing about with me? You are literally just helping my case here. You were arguing that tanks were hard to play and you've yet to present something that actually helps your argument. Talking purely game wise here. Take out the outside pressure of other people, what makes tanking hard?
I think you are getting way too heated over defending all your points. It's ok to admit to being wrong on some things.

This conversation is cycling again. Can we please just stop?

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

Not at all. If tanking was easy then more would do it. Yet there's always a huge tanking shortage hence the instant queues. Most players aren't able to handle being a tank or healer - it's stressful and all the responsibility falls on you. DPS has no such obligations. They just hit things faster/harder. That's it. A group can survive with bad DPS - a group cannot survive with a bad tank or healer. See the issue there? Being a tank/healer requires a lot more situational awareness and actually learning the fights for not only yourself but the DPS as well. The DPS just needs to know where they can stand to safely DPS and what to hit first.

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you know why nobody plays tanks, mr nowhere near max level tank main? because they're so mind numbingly boring in every single way that no one wants to put up with that shit
lmao at the bolded part, that and

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

At least you admit that you're toxic. Now you can heal.

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convinced me that you're nothing but a sad troll

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Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea

I think you would be better off playing a DPS.

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god please no, you want someone unwilling to press 1 to 2 buttons to grab aggro to play a class that requires more effort? you're crazy! they might have to switch between single target and AoE abilities depending on the size of the pull, not to mention keeping track of their buffs so that they don't waste their dmg up on 2 enemies right before a boss!
plus, you seriously think someone who's unwilling to give up control due to their inflated ego will put their precious life into the hands of someone else?

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Originally Posted by Xirean

This conversation is cycling again. Can we please just stop?

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Maybe we can ask one of those mass report shenanigan again!? Where have they gone to now!?

It can't be helped, there will sometimes be someone or two going ahead to pull more mob packs, it's not that big a deal to work around or work with.

You can play this little game I do when say another DPS or sometimes Healer even runs ahead to aggro more mob packs: Just stack on top of them and go with the flow spamming AOE Combos to hold aggro. I don't think most players are trying to personally screw with you, they just want to finish fast.

Hell, you can have some fun too like sometimes I would run back and forth through the mobs or boss and occasionally trying to get them to do AOEs or Line attacks at other players' directions for laughs. Get the mobs or bosses to spaz out and keep changing directions 180 degrees at a time. Some days I might pick a player who I will stack on top of exclusively and just follow them around with aggro spamming /hug

No harm done in the end, we finish this like comrades, bosom buddies and lovers.

You can always tell everyone you're intoxicated, drunk tanking and your other hand is doing something else if you don't want to go too fast.