Bozja is extremely disappointing (especially the 5.45 update)

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

i would go with discord it's what I'm planning for a clear hopefully. I'm not in a rush though so we'll see how that goes but I suspect it'll be a bit like BA with people using that venue as opposed to trying to do it in party finder.

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Yeah, Discord can just...stay away from me. We shouldn't need a 3rd party tool to recruit for content like this. I could understand having it for callouts, but the recruitment system SE seemingly encourages for BA and now DR Savage is just terrible by design. I refuse to be an enabler.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

They really dropped the ball with savage Delubrum because there's even less reason to repeat it after a clear then there is Castrum.

Unless you actually care about getting the augmented law's order armor, there's virtually no reason to go back in there.

Even the Baldesion Arsenal comparatively had more reason to go back because the elemental bonus on the upgrades from there was much more potent then the tiny haste buff the Bozja upgrades offer.

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Yeah.. the augmented armor is kind of cool and all, since you can dye it, but it's waaaay too much of a hassle to obtain. I'm really questioning their design decisions when it comes to bozja and it's rewards...

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Yeah, Discord can just...stay away from me. We shouldn't need a 3rd party tool to recruit for content like this. I could understand having it for callouts, but the recruitment system SE seemingly encourages for BA and now DR Savage is just terrible by design. I refuse to be an enabler.

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I also hate discord. Sorry but I am 10000% uninterested in voice chat.

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Originally Posted by Endeleon

I also hate discord. Sorry but I am 10000% uninterested in voice chat.

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I don't hate Discord. It has its uses. I just hate that it is seen as a bit of a requirement for something that should be doable in game, as I said. Do I care to use voice chat? Not really, no. I like typing, thanks. But I'm not gonna criticize those who use it for various things.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Yeah.. the augmented armor is kind of cool and all, since you can dye it, but it's waaaay too much of a hassle to obtain. I'm really questioning their design decisions when it comes to bozja and it's rewards...

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When it is arguably easier to get armor out of E9S-E12S over Bazja you know that something went wrong. I mean technically this is all because of the mettle penalties more than anything, not to mention people starting late in Bazja have one heck of a grind to make to get to rank 15 before next expansion.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

When it is arguably easier to get armor out of E9S-E12S over Bazja you know that something went wrong. I mean technically this is all because of the mettle penalties more than anything, not to mention people starting late in Bazja have one heck of a grind to make to get to rank 15 before next expansion.

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The mettle penalty is one of the worst features this game has introduced. A similar loss of item level feature was one of the reasons the Aion playerbase deserted the game (and I was there). I hoped never to see anything like that again. Yet here we are, with Bozja doing it's best to mimic a penalty that kills player numbers.

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Originally Posted by Teraluna

The mettle penalty is one of the worst features this game has introduced. A similar loss of item level feature was one of the reasons the Aion playerbase deserted the game (and I was there). I hoped never to see anything like that again. Yet here we are, with Bozja doing it's best to mimic a penalty that kills player numbers.

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To be fair, the reason this hasn't is that it is a side activity and not really part of the main game. If it was the main game there would be riots. Given the armor they have from tomestones is dark souls inspired, I think they thought that having a mettle penalty in the side for dying plus the armor would be a great way to give a nod towards that game, especially since Shadowbringers was supposed to be the "dark and gritty" expansion. Albeit I didn't really find it that dark. I was more so glad we had a relatable villain.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

To be fair, the reason this hasn't is that it is a side activity and not really part of the main game. If it was the main game there would be riots. Given the armor they have from tomestones is dark souls inspired, I think they thought that having a mettle penalty in the side for dying plus the armor would be a great way to give a nod towards that game, especially since Shadowbringers was supposed to be the "dark and gritty" expansion. Albeit I didn't really find it that dark. I was more so glad we had a relatable villain.

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The issue with it is not only Bozja. it's a 'foot in the door' new feature. One of those introduced into an area to test the water, next thing people start seeing it appearing in all kinds of content.
Will SE want to see all their work on this just used a single time? More likely they'll want to maximise the output for their work. There's only one way to do that of course, by repeating the feature elsewhere.
Everything new starts with a single use. It's at this stage the response needs to be given, and in this case make sure it's killed off asap.

The Bozja concept, or content itself isn't THAT bad, and it has some decent ideas that I wouldn't mind utilized for future content. Like CE's outside of bozja, for example. However, their reward structure is beyond bad, in my opinion. The more and more I think about it the more ridiculous it is to me. Some things things are near-unobtainable, tiny drop rates, but not only that - they implemented a punishment system. Which can be severe in content like their savage - which sounds to be dead on arrival. Like, why though? My best guess is they OVERDID it here, trying to produce some long term filler.

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Originally Posted by Teraluna

The mettle penalty is one of the worst features this game has introduced. A similar loss of item level feature was one of the reasons the Aion playerbase deserted the game (and I was there). I hoped never to see anything like that again. Yet here we are, with Bozja doing it's best to mimic a penalty that kills player numbers.

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It wouldn't be so bad if at max level you lost the ability to lose mettle as a reward.

Same in Eureka, Max out for the zone, remove the exp loss on death.