FFXIV is too simplistic and bland

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

We do not in any way shape or form need more content like eureka. It was so Divisive. Hated by half to player base (with good reason, it was terrible content) who in their right mind thinks “let’s make content where the player bases gear doesn’t mean anything, they’re item level synced and all they do is fare grind for hours upon end” no thanks, make content appropriate to the current item level so I can use my current gear I’ve earn that isn’t fate grinding over and over again.

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As in "painfully unpolished"?
As in "daring to be more than a rectangular or circular 'smack a cylinder til it stops spitting out mechanics to position around or hit prescribed buttons to counter' room"?
Specifically as in "using an alternate gearing system"?

What exactly does "like Eureka" mean to you, let alone the half the player base who "hated" it?

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

As in "painfully unpolished"?
As in "daring to be more than a rectangular or circular 'smack a cylinder til it stops spitting out mechanics to position around or hit prescribed buttons to counter' room"?
Specifically as in "using an alternate gearing system"?

What exactly does "like Eureka" mean to you, let alone the half the player base who "hated" it?

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To me, eureka was pretty rectangular and circular like that cylinder smack you are speaking of, I fail to see much difference in the whole game design.

(Sure it was different a bit and a bit enjoyable in its own ways but I would rather not see another system like that)

P.s: I dont feel the need of justifying why.

IthinkI'dpreferfightingAVfor14hours...

I doubt such a radical shift will ever occur especially since the game is doing fine atm. Could it be better? Obviously. But I don't think making FFXIV an XI-2 would draw new people in. Nor do I think XI's complexity will mesh with XIVs. XIV has long since found it's audience and caters to it.

Not to say XIV can never be complex or hasn't been before but these suggestions won't necessarily make it so.

It’s not going to change at this point. We’re a base game and three expansions in now, so we are closer to the end of FFXIV’s life cycle than the beginning. And the formula (of all the things you seem to dislike) has been the same since ARR.

Whether you’re right or wrong about the “blandness” is irrelevant. If you expect massive changes to the game at this point, you’re going to be disappointed.

I'd make a point to say the words OP is using is wrong. It's not that XIV is simple.. it's that XIV isn't 11. They want 11. Nothing XIV does will make them happy unless it's 11, so they should just play 11.

There are plenty of other oldschool MMOs out there than foster to like the way FF11 was.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

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FFXIV's gear is absolutely braindead. You get the bigger number. Thats it. Its all item level. Sure there are small instances where you can take a sub stat weight thats "better" than a higher item level, but thats still just "a bigger number." I can pick about just any Final Fantasy in recent years, and there are entirely different boss' requiring varying gear sets. Certain fights players will want high speed, others where you want high defense, I could literally go into grave detail about any other Final Fantasy's customization and gear sets for numerous fights. They all require you to use your brain, and think things through. XIV, its just your item level. Nothing else really matters. Dont even try to argue "well in such and such Final Fantasy I can defeat mobs by pressing just X." Well cause guess what, in FFXIV you can defeat mobs at a higher level than your character, refuse to move (as in take extra damage from the mobs "AoE" indicated attacks" and never once press a weaponskill/spell (GCD) and ... defeat the mob. So XIV takes the cake, where you can literally press nothing except the initial engagement to "start" auto attacks and defeat enemies by entering no commands. Which that brings us into our next topic.

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I was a black belt MNK in the glory days of FFXI and part of a world first HNM killing LS in the COP era and played from launch until Wings of the Goddess, and I am here to tell you that the same exact thing was true of FFXI.

No, it didn't have item level. Yes, you always used the gear with better stats. I always wore Black Belt, there was never another belt. I always wore Byakko's Haidate, there was no other leg to wear. It had its BIS and there was no transcending that BIS. You had pieces you would momentarily swap in for weaponskill bonuses, and swap back out of and those were BIS too.

What you're saying about FFXI here in comparison to XIV is only true if you were a bad player or don't understand how XI's gear actually works.

I don't know what you're smoking comparing XIV to XIII in terms of linearity. Sure, the dungeons and raids are linear but XIII is one hallway from beginning to end excluding the little Pulse hub you spend like a couple hours at. XIV has real zones, towns and NPCs you can interact with, XIII has none of that. The "quests" in XIII are absolutely pathetic, they just took a dump on the awesome hunt system from XII and that's all there is.

XIII has the most disjointed world out of all the FF games, the different areas might as well all be in different dimensions with how well the game shows and tells you where are at any given time. There's no real sense of the world as none of the areas are connected, you take an airship ride to a different location or there's a cutscene and suddenly you're in a completely different area, it's really bad before the party is all back together with the game jumping in between different groups and they're all in random locations. And this is all with no real way to backtrack either.