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I was hoping at least central U.S. But eh, whatever I guess. Good bye ping.

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Originally Posted by savageink

LOL! No. It's not really an issue for me.

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Oh, I wasn't talking to you directly, just picking up the argument^^'

I'm not a network expert, but last I checked, Cali was fairly well decked out in terms of tech infrastructure, and was one of the major hubs for internet backbones. Interchanges add latency and all that, but I would think the 'fat pipe' would make up for it a little bit, and along with fewer hops off the mainline, that would ensure more people got more consistent performance overall. Would moving it 1500 miles east make that big of a difference?

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Originally Posted by Fyce

Infrastructure upgrade. They had to move. This decision wasn't taken on a whim. It's a long term investment.
They probably had multiple options and had to take the best compromise without just considering location as the only weight on the balance.

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That's typically why you see NA East and NA West servers. It's generally not a good thing to wire everyone through the same server. If and this is a big IF, the server is actually in CA, then all East coast players just got a the worst end of the change. I'm in the Midwest and and from my state to CA the miles between the two is about 2000+. Two servers should have been the choice going forward in this case, not the one.

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Originally Posted by Fatalityz

I could be wrong on this but it would still give a decent idea of what your ping would be like to run a Tracert and see what the average ms / amount of hops to get to the destination is right? Like I can still get to Sacramento with a tracert which I would assume is maybe a hop or two short of the SE servers.

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The whole problem of the discussion is, that people are debating about the location more than the IP. And many are using web services such as Whois to locate the new data center and get different results. In the end the best way to find the new data center is tracerouting neolobby02.ffxiv.com yourself which reveals two things: xe-0-1-0-1-1.r00.scrmca02.us.ce.gin.ntt.net and a IP (204.2.229.234) before the command will die. scrmca stands for Sacramento, California and that means the servers are somewhere in that area.

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Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox

That's typically why you see NA East and NA West servers. It's generally not a good thing to wire everyone through the same server. If and this is a big IF, the server is actually in CA, then all East coast players just got a the worst end of the change. I'm in the Midwest and and from my state to CA the miles between the two is about 2000+. Two servers should have been the choice going forward in this case, not the one.

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As I said, there were multiple things they had to consider. Including fitting the datacenter relocation into a limited budget.
Having two NA datacenter locations was probably out of the question in terms of money investment.
Though I agree it'd have been nice.

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Originally Posted by Ayerinn

*Technically* if the NA region lumps in OCE players (which lets face it - OCE players almost always go for NA servers in any MMO I have ever played,) Cali actually IS more "central" than Chicago or Dallas...

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Many people from Europe ALSO go to North America servers. Why?! Because unlike US, Europe is divided by languages. It's a place with very many countries that have huge population per square kilometer (compared to countries like US, Russia or Australia), each with their own language. Heck, there are countries that have more than one language in and off themselves. Since for large part of European students the secondary language in school is English, many DO pick NA servers to avoid the extreme mix of languages that's possible on European servers (not to mention, some people do not like playing MMO's at peak hours, but rather at the hours that it's either starting to get more crowded or starts to thin out).

You can say all you want about Europeans having their own servers, but the fact of the matter is that the difference between European servers for European people and Australia and Japan is not nearly as large as people make it. It's still a language barrier. We're still more likely to come across people that do not speak the same language as we do than otherwise. Just a slightly higher chance of coming across someone that does know English, albeit...often poorly.

I don't know why every company and their mother have to either start or move to California or the neighborhood...Every single game that is located there that I played (and that would be vast majority of the MMO's I came across) is there...And it absolutely sucks. With such network use, is it REALLY any good?! Is the network there really so superb?! I don't think so...

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Originally Posted by kikix12

Many people from Europe ALSO go to North America servers. Why?! Because unlike US, Europe is divided by languages. It's a place with very many countries that have huge population per square kilometer (compared to countries like US, Russia or Australia), each with their own language. Heck, there are countries that have more than one language in and off themselves. Since for large part of European students the secondary language in school is English, many DO pick NA servers to avoid the extreme mix of languages that's possible on European servers (not to mention, some people do not like playing MMO's at peak hours, but rather at the hours that it's either starting to get more crowded or starts to thin out).

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I already addressed this in one of my earlier posts - they gave EU their own datacenter 2 years ago...playing on NA servers from the EU is your own choice not one forced onto you. In other words - when relocating NA servers they should only really be considering NA datacenter players located in NA (and OCE,) not EU.

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Originally Posted by Ayerinn

I already addressed this in one of my earlier posts - they gave EU their own datacenter 2 years ago...playing on NA servers from the EU is your own choice not one forced onto you. In other words - when relocating NA servers it should only be of concern to players located in NA (and OCE,) not EU.

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Wrong. It should only be of concern to players located in NA. Not Oceania. And if it would, then it would be in the center of NA and I couldn't find a single reason to complain about that choice then (actually doing any move is another part).

You have the same choice of Japan where there are some people that speak your language and many people that don't as European people have. Do read my post in whole (and I had to edit it in because of this forums restrictive 1000-sign count).

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Originally Posted by kikix12

Wrong. It should only be of concern to players located in NA. Not Oceania. And if it would, then it would be in the center of NA and I couldn't find a single reason to complain about that choice then (actually doing any move is another part).

You have the same choice of Japan where there are some people that speak your language and many people that don't as European people have. Do read my post in whole (and I had to edit it in because of this forums restrictive 1000-sign count).

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OCE doesn't have their own servers unlike EU- you can argue whatever you want but EU players should be of no concern in regards to NA datacenters...period. It sucks for EU people but they have an option to move to the EU datacenters - and transfers should be opened up for free without gil restrictions imo.