Can we have the option to not count unsync instances with our overall total SE?

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

because to me if i had 2000 instances and only 1000 commendations id feel like I was a bad player thats why I would like to see the real numbers

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Sigh.

Fine I got something to show you then so you'll realize what your asking for means nothing.

I've barely done any content unsync. Like barely anything. I've done a few primals here and there for WT that's it.

The reason I haven't done much unsync? I've been subbed to this game since 1.0 and I've done all content from 1.0 till now when it was new and just added.

So here is commendations and instances run on a character who hasn't done much more than maybe 20-30 instances unsync in total. So unsync is almost not even a factor and even I have way less commendations than instances run.

http://i.imgur.com/ZEffwvo.png

I also included in the screenshot proof of clearing A12S. I am not perfect or the best player but I am definitely not a "bad" player. For further proof my youtube channel has my static's first A12S clear on video.

So really you need to stop with this mentality. If you want to find out if you play a job well you need to research your job. You can use youtube, you can ask fellow players on your server and maybe one will mentor you at the job to guide you, but commendations? Nope. For the last darn time they are NOT a good indicator of skill.

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Originally Posted by AnaviAnael

I gotta ask. You're so hung up on the comm to instance ratio, but you don't mention the ratios to trials, guildhests, or pvp. You get comms there too. Why is it onlyinstances that matter?

Seriously, comms don't make or break you as a good player so stop telling yourself you're a bad tank for not getting a commendation. If you want to improve yourself, parse damage and damage taken, read guides, and manually adjust. You don't need some arbitrary number in an achievement log to tell you that you're doing well.

I have about 5k instances and around 750 commendations. Does that mean I'm a garbage DPS even though I parsed highest in Savage last night?

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Do you happen to leave duties right away? My friend tends to wait a bit because she likes watching the duty complete thing and waits around to talk in case anyone wants to. As said before she is at 1961 with 2710 coms as now. She is willing to talk during the DF too and just has a habit of sticking out. She has not done anything for endgame. (more pointing this out for the next quote)

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

because to me if i had 2000 instances and only 1000 commendations id feel like I was a bad player thats why I would like to see the real numbers

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People made LISTS, one by my self why you SHOULDN'T feel like that. it is a PURE OCD thing or something of that effect (calling it ocd may be wrong but gets the point across what it really is)

People com may be the following but not limited to:
Auto com the tank for holding hate
auto com the healer for no one dying
auto com the AST for spaming AoE balance
lewd glamor
talking
actually being a guide and being a true mentor
give it to a new person for trying
Not being toxic and cooperating with someone when something is pointed out that they did wrong

Plus you are being compared to other players. Lets say you are good but then you are partied with someone like AnaviAnael. You are good but she performed better so she gets the coms. It is not calling you a bad player, just that someone performed better at that specific case.

They are meaningless, arbitrary, and subjective. People are against your suggestion because it does NOTHING to improve the game just because you are hung up on something that does not matter.

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Originally Posted by Miste

Sigh.

Fine I got something to show you then so you'll realize what your asking for means nothing.

I've barely done any content unsync. Like barely anything. I've done a few primals here and there for WT that's it.

The reason I haven't done much unsync? I've been subbed to this game since 1.0 and I've done all content from 1.0 till now when it was new and just added.

So here is commendations and instances run on a character who hasn't done much more than maybe 20-30 instances unsync in total. So unsync is almost not even a factor and even I have way less commendations than instances run.

http://i.imgur.com/ZEffwvo.png

I also included in the screenshot proof of clearing A12S. I am not perfect or the best player but I am definitely not a "bad" player. For further proof my youtube channel has my static's first A12S clear on video.

So really you need to stop with this mentality. If you want to find out if you play a job well you need to research your job. You can use youtube, you can ask fellow players on your server and maybe one will mentor you at the job to guide you, but commendations? Nope. For the last darn time they are NOT a good indicator of skill.

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lol my friend is shocked she has more coms then you, do you leave dungeons asap or something? That is another thing bswpayton, some people do not com at all because they are such in a rush they just leave.

The weird thing about this is: I could imagine people actually understanding the wish to seperate unsyched and syched in the achievment if the reason would be "I'd like to see how many dungeons/instance I did the proper way" and not this weird clusterfuck about commendations and some sort of "ratio"...

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Originally Posted by Miste

So here is commendations and instances run on a character who hasn't done much more than maybe 20-30 instances unsync in total. So unsync is almost not even a factor and even I have way less commendations than instances run.

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I second this - didnt bother to take a screenshot as proof, so you'll have to believe me that I'm at 3622 comms and 5223 instance - without running much more than 100 of them unsyched. The reason for that? I did a lot - and I mean a LOT - of mountfarms. So, always premade groups. And yes, I got all my ponies pre-HW. So... despite me having 3622 commendations it would still mean that I'm a pretty bad player because I did a lot of stuff with premade groups...?

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Do you happen to leave duties right away? My friend tends to wait a bit because she likes watching the duty complete thing and waits around to talk in case anyone wants to. As said before she is at 1961 with 2710 coms as now. She is willing to talk during the DF too and just has a habit of sticking out. She has not done anything for endgame. (more pointing this out for the next quote)

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I mostly run in premades, but by the OP's logic, I'm terrible because low commendations. I don't actually care about how many comms I have, but I do feel the OP needs other examples of why their logic is massively flawed.

OP, I know you seen it, finally answer my question please: Dungeon achievements have a limit, and no longer tally after awhile. What about your coms then? With no dungeons to compare it too?

This OCD/ego boast of yours is limited.

well I guess what you guys are saying makes sense then , It was just really bothering me so thats why I made this post but its really nothing that can be done about it. And I actually work on my skills to improve every time I play tryin to get this stupid act to work so I can know how wel Im doing each time.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

lol my friend is shocked she has more coms then you, do you leave dungeons asap or something? That is another thing bswpayton, some people do not com at all because they are such in a rush they just leave.

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Yeah sometimes I leave quickly, but not always; in general I barely pay attention to my own commendations even though I appreciate it when I do get them. Honestly it is likely due to my raiding with a premade. Raids count as instances but I've always had a static that I play with to clear the raid content since launch so no commendations with a premade.

I also often use PF to farm content for glamour/mounts (I had Kirin before HW launched so no unsync and I also have the Firebird from farming the HW Primal Birds too) so again no commendations there either since full premade which is another reason why you can't really use it to judge your own skill level of course.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

well I guess what you guys are saying makes sense then

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Glad to see you now understand what we've been trying to tell you.

Can this thread just die please.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

well I guess what you guys are saying makes sense then , It was just really bothering me so thats why I made this post but its really nothing that can be done about it. And I actually work on my skills to improve every time I play tryin to get this stupid act to work so I can know how wel Im doing each time.

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You need to be self aware. Like I can go wow I carried that run hard *gets no coms* but no one seemed to be appreciative of it and com me. I know i did my best and can't do anything more.
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wow i screwed up on that one part by not managing my mp, i could of done better so, so and so didn't die.
or..
I could of done better healing if i knew i had to carry more, ill take what i learned from this and do better next time now that i know the signs.

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Originally Posted by Miste

Yeah sometimes I leave quickly, but not always; in general I barely pay attention to my own commendations even though I appreciate it when I do get them. Honestly it is likely due to my raiding with a premade. Raids count as instances but I've always had a static that I play with to clear the raid content since launch so no commendations with a premade.

I also often use PF to farm content for glamour/mounts (I had Kirin before HW launched so no unsync and I also have the Firebird from farming the HW Primal Birds too) so again no commendations there either since full premade which is another reason why you can't really use it to judge your own skill level of course.

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ah , i see, she really does not care for battle things unless there is a friend to be with that is motivating her to do it. VERY RECENTLY, like last month or so she been trying get those mounts etc, relic, just because she wants to do it with her close friend. She is mainly a crafter.

I don't see the issue the OP is suggesting. If commendations are important. Roll a tank or healer and run a few randoms. As a Healer I get 2-3 commendations per 4 man, and 2-6 per trial. If having a 1:1 ratio is their metric for being a good player, then they have quite a ways to go to improve themselves. I manage a 2.5:1 Com to Run ratio and I don't even think I'm that great. (its actually 2:3, but much of that was pre-com content and I run with friends alot).

In reality.. this is a non-issue. Figured I'd pipe in to point out that if they were to do exactly what the OP wanted.. the OP would be surprised to see how 'not good' they are under such a metric. Here's a better metric:

Tank: Good if no one dies from agro.
Healer: Good if no one dies from unavoidable damage.
DPS: Good if no one dies from healer going out of MP.

Simple, and much more telling than commendations. Commendations are just a means of keeping popularity score among strangers. Has little (not quite nothing) to do with how well you are doing. Hell I give commendations to DPS who are new in a dungeon cause they give more tomestones for being there. And I feel like throwing them a bone since DPS are less likely to get them than tanks/healers.

I'm sure I'm not alone in that.