The single worst argument on the forums "No one is forcing you to XYZ/ABC".
Yes others are forcing you to do certain things against your will ex: if you try to shout in FFXI for a party and you are a lvl 50 rdm with no subs and no refresh you are NOT going to get in any parties ever. You are forced to have subs lvl'd and basic required spells. Of course no one forces you to have them but if you dont' you dont' get the invites.
In ffxiv you are forced to deal with PL's in parties and groups that maximize gains and prefer beastmen/raptors from 30-50.
ffxiv: no one forces you to have sentinel for ifrit but if your whole party does not have sentinel expect to wipe.
ffxiv: no one forces you to use LNC but if you bring 6PGL to ifrit expect to wipe from sear dmg + hate control issues
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11-22-2011, 01:52 AMtachikoma
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11-22-2011, 01:53 AMPrettyPrincessPretty Princess actually thinks you are the one getting flustered since you feel the need to throw around petty insults. Pretty princess and others also believe it is you who is spewing the garbage. Pretty Princess also knows that it is you who is the bitter one. This please Pretty Princess :3Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucifer
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11-22-2011, 01:53 AMRathSkybreakerYeah I agree, I think if anything 2.0 will be the saving grace, not because of its super patch ability, but for the fact that it will rush in new players (hopefully), if everything goes well then with a rush of new players I think everything would settle out, as long as they dont all rush to 50 @_@Quote:
Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess
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11-22-2011, 01:55 AMPrettyPrincessXIV and XI are different. Unlike XI, if I dont like what a certain group is doing guess what? I go solo. Efficiently.Quote:
Originally Posted by tachikoma
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11-22-2011, 01:55 AMJinkoThis, It take a certain type of person to go from 1-50 in one day, I don't have the patience to go from 40-50 in one day let alone 1-50.Quote:
Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess
It's people who level that fast who are the problem. -
11-22-2011, 02:00 AMtachikoma
Jinko: these are the exact same situations
How do you suggest ppl follow the "no one is forcing you" mantra for these?Quote:
ffxiv: no one forces you to have sentinel for ifrit but if your whole party does not have sentinel expect to wipe.
ffxiv: no one forces you to use LNC but if you bring 6PGL to ifrit expect to wipe from sear dmg + hate control issues
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11-22-2011, 02:02 AMtachikomaYou have never partied for 3hours strait?Quote:
I don't have the patience to go from 40-50 in one day let alone 1-50.
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11-22-2011, 02:03 AMPrettyPrincessUm...I've gone in with people who didn't have sentinel and came out victorious every time we did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tachikoma
We've also brought in pugs and came out victorious.
No wipes. Just people who know what they're doing. -
11-22-2011, 02:07 AMtachikomashow me a victory where the entire party does not have sentinel 1M gil on the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess
or a party with PGL as your dd's, I have had wins with 6ppl only (where 2dc's in 1 fight happen) obv you can bring ppl in who do nothing but stand in the corner but the rest of the party needs to then be further optimized LNC/CON/MRD sentinel etc. etc. -
11-22-2011, 02:07 AMJinko
Whats your point ?
Not everyone uses sentinel or can be bothered to level GLA for one skill, and they do just fine.
Yes you are rigth it becomes a whole lot easier with sentinel but its not required, just as its not required to XP for 8 hours staight.
FWIW sentinel looks like its been removed from the game in 1.20 so 1 down many to go ?
Probably not no, I find grinding the most boring thing around and lose patience after about 2 hours.Quote:
You have never partied for 3hours strait?