Patch Notes are up!

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

They could have just implemented the vote reset so ppl wouldn't QQ about it being nerfed to the floor.
See this is what SE likes to do lol
And now ppl will also be disappointed when they see the news for headstart of new relic in 3.0.
Surprises me that se didn't add a reset in all those nerfs.

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I have not seen a "reset" option myself in FFXIV. It could just be that I have yet to enter a duty that has it, or it doesn't exist. In that case SE would have to create a whole new system and run tests and implement it in a way so it wont cause problems. Easier to just nerf it honestly.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

It was probably more trouble to add the reset than it was to nerf the encounter, since we don't have a manual reset in any other encounter in the game. Lowering damage values is much more simple.

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Damn it, you beat me to it while I was typing my own entry. -hehe-

aww, the nerf to steps of fate I like how it was before but a lot of people complained about it so this needed to happen so hopefully people stop rage quitting from it, maybe the will make a hard mode or something for it to make it harder again but anyway ^-^ mean I can play it more with out people leaving.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

You could literally zerg the wall down 99% of the time. Caster LB made the bees a joke. Demon Wall was never difficult. kbye

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During 2.0 before everyone was overgeared? I seriously doubt that you zerged it without a good premade. After that? Yes, it was possible, and it was fun to do it as a revenge on the damn wall haha. But I doubt that the post that you quoted was talking about it when everyone and their mother was i70+. It's not that it was super hard either, but was nerfed anyway, and that was the point. Like Pharos, like SoF now, and like everything.

And it doesn't matter if there's a loot reward or not. Some people play the game because they enjoy it, because they get fun out of playing something that doesn't make you fall asleep, and not because of "ph4t l00tz" that will be obsolete in a couple of months. Fun that they don't get if everything is a cakewalk, if the few fun things get unilaterally nerfed because some people can't stand that some content requires a little bit of their precious time. They are not even asking for everything to be like Coil pre-nerf, but to have something that required you to stay awake, like pre-nerf Demon Wall, Pharos Sirius, etc.

What they're accomplishing with these nerfs is that people will keep expecting to faceroll everything in 2 minutes. And that's what's sad about this. Because SoF wasn't hard, and I doubt that no one would have had a problem with it if it was released back in 2.0. But nowadays everyone is in a hurry, expecting speedruns, ignoring most fight mechanics and bruteforcing them, looking up everyone's dps (even tank's) for the most easier content, having little to no patience with new players, etc. That's the direction where you want to keep going?

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Damn it, you beat me to it while I was typing my own entry. -hehe-

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hehe yeah.
I'm actually quite happy with the level of testing the current team engages in. It takes longer (other games would have a hotfix in for SoF within 2 weeks) but what we get actually works.
Sure there's still bugs, but it's an MMO.
Which is why i crawl down peoples' throats when they suggest super complex ideas for the game. Everything added to the game MUST be tested, and retested, and tested again with as many permutations as possible. There's a reason they started developing outfits for the Au Ra almost a year before even announcing them.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

I have not seen a "reset" option myself in FFXIV. It could just be that I have yet to enter a duty that has it, or it doesn't exist. In that case SE would have to create a whole new system and run tests and implement it in a way so it wont cause problems. Easier to just nerf it honestly.

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Maybe they should make it that if everyone stays on the ground and nobody releases that the game registers it as a fail and resets the instance? Iunno, just spouting out ideas.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

It was probably more trouble to add the reset than it was to nerf the encounter, since we don't have a manual reset in any other encounter in the game. Lowering damage values is much more simple.

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All they really needed to do though, was increase the Tomestone rewards (15/7? Really?) and slap it in the Main Scenario Roulette. The issue was people abandoning it due to it honestly not being worth doing even if everything goes perfectly. Most of the nerfs we actually got were fine as well actually, but seemingly halving Vishaps HP is just beyond overkill... Vishap is effectively just a FATE boss now, you can ignore the mechanics and clear him with plenty of time, you can do the mechanics and do it faster. Either way the encounter has lost any sense of tension which made it fun and relevant to the story.

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Originally Posted by AdamFyi

Maybe they should make it that if everyone stays on the ground and nobody releases that the game registers it as a fail and resets the instance? Iunno, just spouting out ideas.

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Would still need coding as nothing at this moment tells the game when it would be a good time to reset.
Normally a duty resets as the Boss doesn't have anyone to fight. But in Steps of Faith the boss ignores everyone and is after the Gate itself. So untill the gate (normally the players) is dead nothing tells it to reset.

That's how I see it anyways. I got no wisdom of how coding and programing works.

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Originally Posted by Nalien

All they really needed to do though, was increase the Tomestone rewards (15/7? Really?) and slap it in the Main Scenario Roulette. The issue was people abandoning it due to it honestly not being worth doing even if everything goes perfectly. Most of the nerfs we actually got were fine as well actually, but seemingly halving Vishaps HP is just beyond overkill... Vishap is effectively just a FATE boss now, you can ignore the mechanics and clear him with plenty of time, you can do the mechanics and do it faster. Either way the encounter has lost any sense of tension which made it fun and relevant to the story.

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make the boss have a chance to drop a Pet and people would flood SoF again.

Or make it drop i110 unweathered gear. All the fight needed was a reason to be replayed.