The female DRG AF belly window needs to be closed

At this point they should just add some definition for Abs to it and call it a day by adding a six pack for males to flaunt also.


(well it was a dead thread...)

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Originally Posted by Mahri

This is a good point, and a good post. Sexy is fine, embrace it and run with it. "Alright finished up designing this armor WAIT OH CRAP I FORGOT TO MAKE IT SEXY UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH HEY JUST YANK THE BELLY PART OKAY SEXY NOW" is bad and dumb.

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See this is why bikini armor I'm fine with, but female dragoon armor just is.... ugh.

Tbh hole or no hole, that doesn't change anything to me when i gotta raise you for the X time.

Grey_Cain, you're a gentlecat and a scholar. Actually a White Mage but even so

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

Tbh hole or no hole, that doesn't change anything to me when i gotta raise you for the X time.

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Look

okay

An unspoken but obvious feature of the DRG class is, with our fancy jumps and such, the ability to die in style. Permit us our suicidal extravagance.

I never know an armor show belly can get to 17 pages of discussion, interesting.

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

I never know an armor show belly can get to 17 pages of discussion, interesting.

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Covering the belly part is important, you will die immediately when stabbed and rip out your intestines. That's why DRG die early.

I wish I had the time to complain about a non-issue like this.

The female DRG AF looks great.

SE doesn't need to do anything. How entitled.

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Originally Posted by Mahri

Haha, look at this drama queen.

Critics gonna make valid points. This might not change. It might influence future designs, though. Or it may not, but what is said has been said. If you like it? Explain why you like it, don't attack the ones that don't. Progress the conversation.

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You completely overlooked the point of the conversation, which was muted when it was revealed to me that the thread was, in fact, a troll post:

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Originally Posted by Hyrist

There is no ground to call to deface something based on personal preference at all.

What the OP is asking for is the destruction of a particular style of graphic (Note: someone else's Art) because it does not appeal to them. This is not constructive feedback, this is a one-dimensional complaint with no consideration for any opposing preference or opinion.

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Your original thread got my upvote. However if and when the DRK gear for females has (Or does not have) a midriff cut out of it, you cross the line when you demand it be changed. It's not yours. You can call it dirt, but when you screw with something someone else created, it's defacement.

'Critiques' based on personal opinion are just that, personal opinion and are fine. Influence towards future designs (or ideally future options and variants) is feedback that can be weighed in on. The final design is still left to the decision of the development heads.

The line is drawn at demands of destroying something (IE, making a variant no longer available) simply based on an outspoken number's aesthetic values, which is fundamentally wrong. It literally meshes the equivalent of revisionist history and book burning - an act among the darker societal steps in human history, which you seem to accept casually. If I get labeled for calling out such a synonym, so be it. It's greatly disturbing and should not be encouraged.

Furthermore there is literally no point to having it simply just one way. We've got three variations on the gear already. One of which is colorable, so obviously them expanding the item files to provide options isn't really a concern for them. So why this isn't seen as a valid route by the players protesting the exposure of a bit of belly is beyond me.

I personally don't like the midriff for my character. It completely contrasts the image I make for her. But there is plenty of other, beautiful pieces gear for me to explore as options for my character.

So, to meet your request for progression there was an idea presented in my FC about that that I like rather well: Armor Variants. We have gear that changes slightly with the /visor function, where parts completely disappear, move, or reappear with a simple emote command (Think Amon's hat. Scholar's hat, etc.) Why not have questionable pieces of body armor operate similarly? Might actually give some option for male characters who want to show a bit more skin to do so as well.

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Originally Posted by Magis

SE doesn't need to do anything. How entitled.

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My thoughts exactly, so many people feel self entitled over a single design, if you don't like the hole then just glamour it to something else, there are many designs i wish could be cooler or be adjusted, but instead of complaining accept some people might like the design and just wear something different if that one thing turns you off of it.

Also for the idiots complaining about gender equality, a lot of women like feeling sexy when it comes to their avatars so don't speak as though all women find this distasteful, i know plenty who like the design, and as a few others have pointed out this game does a great job of not just adding sexy female versions of armour but instead a huge majority is similar in design between the sexes, and this dragoon set at least has a reason for being more open due to dragoons needing to be more flexible when jumping and such.

Go make a thread campaigning for something that actually matters and effects the game negatively.