Time limit to re-enter dungeons

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Originally Posted by Richard

A F2P game can't do well for itself? The original GW sold 6 Million Copies of the original game not to mention the 3-4 expansion packs they put out over a 6 year period. 6 years is a good shelf life for an MMO if you ask me.

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Except Guild Wars isn't an MMO. It's a 3-D Diablo clone.

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Originally Posted by Richard

A F2P game can't do well for itself? The original GW sold 6 Million Copies of the original game not to mention the 3-4 expansion packs they put out over a 6 year period. 6 years is a good shelf life for an MMO if you ask me.

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And such a hardcore-friendly game it was indeed.

You could clear it in two weeks.

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Originally Posted by Richard

again: All MMOs need to be designed around everyone. Not casuals alone. Not hardcores alone. A mix for everyone.

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This is opinion not some sort of MMO law. We all have opinions and this is yours. Thanks for sharing.

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Originally Posted by Zkieve

i have to disagree there, ffxi shinned becouse they aimed for hardcore PVE (on its peak, not now that all playing are fans ).
Wow Shined becouse they aimed for casuals.
Aion Shined (compared to many others it was succesfull) becouse it focused on PVP.

Just a few examples that comes to my mind .

Im gonna have to disagree, try to cater to to many , and you will cater to none at all.,If GW can do it or not , is yet to be seen .

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I agree XI was that exception and they had that niche that lasted a good 6-8 years but next gen MMOs cant survive like that anymore.

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana

This is opinion not some sort of MMO law. We all have opinions and this is yours. Thanks for sharing.

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Not only that, but it is his 'assumption' that dungeons won't have anything to offer Hardcore players. Based on... nothing because it hasn't been released yet.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

And such a hardcore-friendly game it was indeed.

You could clear it in two weeks.

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never said it was hardcore. I was talking about GW2 until you brought up F2P.

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Originally Posted by Richard

never said it was hardcore. I was talking about GW2 until you brought up F2P.

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Based on my experience with GW1, where the game doesn't even expect you to level on your own and you can START the game at max-level, there wasn't a more 'casual' MMO on the market back then and I don't feel their direction has changed with GW2.

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Originally Posted by Richard

never said it was hardcore. I was talking about GW2 until you brought up F2P.

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Ah, GW2 isn't F2P? It uses the same model.

I don't even know why you brought up GW1, cause I sure as hell didn't.

It's buy to play, by the way..

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

It is the same thing. FINAL stages. Dungeons are NOT the final stage of the game. End game will be the day they release an all out war with the Garlean Empire, or the day that you get a boss fight for the Emperor of Garlemand. Dungeons do not classify as end-game because they are not the END of the GAME.

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I guess that is what also Richard was saying ealier. For now, Dungeons will be the final Stage. Like Groundkings were Endgame for Years in FFXI, before they raised the cap to 90'ish. Groundkings dont mean shit anymore. Its the same definition of "final". They are Endgame, in my personal oppinion, till SE will add larger Content or will raise Cap along with higher Tiers of Dungeons. I also know what you mean and totally agree with your point of view. Can you agree with my view of the Things?

Yes b/c the solution to low amount of content in games are timers.. people start living in 21st century. We should be able to enter any content whenever we want. If you have a problem with that enter those dungeons once a week and it will last you 2 months.