Best Gear in Coil needs to end

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Originally Posted by TeganLaron

I just don't really get why these people want this gear, other than because they're simply jealous people beating turns in Second Coil have a higher illv than them. There is no other content in the game which requires you to be in i110-115 gear. In all honesty you don't even need i100 gear to beat the new EX Primals, but that's still available. Other than that what is there you could possible need to be that overgeared for?

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How much i110 gear did blue gartr need to beat coil?

There is no content in the game which requires you to be in i110-115 gear. So why does anyone want this gear?

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Originally Posted by Viore

why add solo content to a mmorpg? ö_Ö story is solo enough...

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because train yourself to master your class is not always needed to be done in group, add hard solo content can be a good way to force some people to play better them class. learn some basic about them class like when you move out of an aoe, when begin a cast or your cycle and how make it fluid.

a dummy doll don't train you at do this in fight situation. indeed you can do it while running group content, but i feel it can offer something interesting for the game. don't get me wrong i don't think this sort of content must give high end item, at best complet this full course can give you one item and it can be a nice way to see some mechanic that can be used via this way.

i think the best way is to add content for duo, trio and group of 4 really hard, demanding a good teamplay. it will add diversity and allows people to not be forced to simply do raid and only raid.

indeed it's a mmorpg, but we are not always in group and sometimes we simply want to enjoy hard content and change the pace.

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Originally Posted by sylent09

You could get ilvl 90 from wp before. No issues or complaints about that. It's about the fact that we should have options. Obviously you do coil and enjoy it. Believe it or not many people aren't you. We enjoy to just grind and not do coil where people are complete jerks, kick you for learning, blacklist you for needing an item, want you too have team speak, yell at you for a simple mistake. Casual players should still be able to get some gear to. Would you be happy if coil dropped ilvl 100 gear while people who grind extreme dungeons get ilvl 110 gear? That's how we feel.

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Sure, if extreme dungeons are harder than Coil then they should award better gear. No issues there.

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Because alternatives are better. While I've never had an issue putting in hours of attempts in raiding before. What I don't tolerate is all the whining, elitism, and overall negativity that comes with it.

So why should the best gear be awarded on the basis that people tolerate that kind of environment and not to those that are civil?

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Is being "civil" the only requirement for good gear? Should we simply be handing out the best gear in the game to people for being such wonderful, special snowflakes?

I find there is far more negativity and whining from the "anti-elitist" crowd than anything else. Time and time again it has been shown on these very forums that the individuals with the most vitriol do so under that banner.

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Originally Posted by TeganLaron

I just don't really get why these people want this gear

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The binding coil of bahamut has main story relevance to it. Which is why a lot of people want to do it. I care more about that than the gear itself.

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Originally Posted by Raenryong

I find there is far more negativity and whining from the "anti-elitist" crowd than anything else.

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So negativity from the "anti-elitist" is when "you" don't like it when they say good things that benefit everyone not just the 2%?

That's pretty hilarious.

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Originally Posted by Gormogon

The binding coil of bahamut has main story relevance to it. Which is why a lot of people want to do it.

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Then do it?

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Originally Posted by RumiP

Then do it?

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And put up with all the drama of whining and rage quitting? No thanks I'll pass.

I tolerated it in WoW up until WotLK and I only had to tolerate some of it up until Cataclysm and MoP. I didn't enjoy much of it 2.1 and I'm not liking how worse it got with 2.2.

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Originally Posted by Gormogon

And put up with all the drama of whining and rage quitting? No thanks I'll pass.

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Sounds like you need better friends.

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

For scholar you need the complete left side except the pants of daystar set (left side needs sand) and the ring on right side (1x oil).

As of missing alternatives, I would equip a whitemage the opposite way. Left side high allagan stuff except pants (1xsand) and on rigth side the daystar accessoires as the high allagan ones are missing piety.

Actually there are only 2 rings for healers, so both need all of them.

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The only debatable piece on the left side for Scholar is the gloves. Pants is Daystar hands down.

No. Leave i110 in 2nd coil. I do not want to see a bunch of full i110 who never downed t6. (Like all those full i90 who never downed t6 pre 2.2)

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Sounds like you need better friends.

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Finding a good static isn't easy if you don't know a bunch of reliable people. It's basically like internet dating.

My experiences with statics for Turn 1-5:
- First group: moved me on because they wanted to get another pinoy member
- Second group: fell apart within 2 weeks due to people leaving the game
- Third group: was actually the first group taking me back. The replacement had sucked. Then they quit the game when 2.1 hit.
- Fourth static: I only did one T4 run with them, they were completely obnoxious and I had no desire to contribute to their success.
- Fifth Static: started at T5 progression, to start with these guys has a whacky strategy for snakes in T5. It kind of worked though, and after making a bit of progress in T5 I went on holidays. My return was discussed with the group, but they didn't want me back when I returned. I got used and burned. I got all of zero drops out of that static (my bard was saturated except for T5 drops) and copped a lot of misdirected criticism. Big waste of time.
- Sixth static: hasn't happened yet. I expressed interest in a group who was on T5 back after 2.2 hit, the guy turned me down for having not cleared Titan EX. Blacklisted him after a heated exchange about why having Primal EX clears as a pre-req for T5 was completely daft, especially seeing as I'd taken a break from the game.

The funny thing is I've rinsed T5 and the EX primals countless times since then.

So yeah here we are today and I haven't bothered trying to find another static for T6 and onwards, mostly because of the lousy experiences I've had in the past.

Having said all that, I'd be quite happy to pick up a static for T6 and onwards if anyone is looking for a BRD/WAR on Tonberry.