Summoners have actually ruined this game's PvP

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Originally Posted by Quackley

That it's part of your video? Big deal?
It's a simple screenshot with no context to it, it doesn't show anything.

If you really wanna get into it, a single video of a handful of matches won't really show much either.
You're more than welcome to show a summoner getting blown up, but the same goes for any DPS. They're all pretty much glass. Most just have significantly less cannon to them.

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Who said anything about showing a summoner getting blown up. . . z_z these speculations are out of this world. Just like your fails. =0= Mister, I.. I don't even know if I can even continue to debate with you anymore. I think I lost you when you said their billions of dots are unfair when they only have 3 ranged and 1 close range z_z. . .

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Originally Posted by Quackley

It's gonna show a few matches in a game without any rating systems. We won't know the gear people have, how good they are, what they have for PvP abilities, and so on.
All of those change everything dramatically.

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Yes your team composition changes dramatically, that is correct. So Basically your saying you suck at adapting?

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Originally Posted by Quackley

I'll give you that their dots have cast time, but currently they don't ACTUALLY need them. Which is hilarious, that a class with a billion dots doesn't need them.

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I'm not how that = "only have 3 ranged and 1 close range," or what that's even supposed to mean, but okay.
I've never once said their billions of dots are unfair, actually.
That quote says they don't need them to blow things up, because they don't.

If you're gonna still use the word "fail," like it's still 2005 or something (I don't even know when the whole fail thing happened, that was a million years ago in internet time), at least make sure you're making sense.

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Originally Posted by Cleftobismal

Yes your team composition changes dramatically, that is correct. So Basically your saying you suck at adapting?

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Oh boy, more calling people bad, how fun.
It'd be cool to hear how you can adapt to summoners doing well over 100% of your health in damage instantly, but sure.
I suck at adapting.

That doesn't suddenly make summoners not overpowered, or make it okay that they do that damage because they're glass cannon (which, they're really not but oh well), or anything of the sort.

I'm really not sure what you're out to prove here.
That summoners/scholars don't need the nerfs that are slated for 2.15?
Everybody knows they do, even the r30 arcanists who actually understand the class.

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Originally Posted by Quackley

Oh boy, more calling people bad, how fun.
It'd be cool to hear how you can adapt to summoners doing well over 100% of your health in damage instantly, but sure.
I suck at adapting.

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Well you know the saying child, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.

If summoners are the downfall of your party, then adapt meaning kill/disable their @ss. Peeling is one option. Sleeping is another. Killing is best. While having your healer take care of the summoners victim is another. There are pleeenty of ways to get things done right when your against a summoner.


But its okay dear, you will win this fight with SE. Because you know why? Majority Rules. They will always listen to the overwhelming populations of suckies over the handful of people who actually know how to play. So gratz to you my boy.

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Originally Posted by Cleftobismal

If summoners are the downfall of your party, then adapt meaning kill/disable their @ss. Peeling is one option. Sleeping is another. Killing is best. While having your healer take care of the summoners victim is another. There are pleeenty of ways to get things done right when your against a summoner.


But its okay dear, you will win this fight with SE. Because you know why? Majority Rules. They will always listen to the overwhelming populations of suckies over the handful of people who actually know how to play. So gratz to you my boy.

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I beat plenty of summoners, actually. The halfway decent and geared ones are basically untouchable though. There's not really much you can adapt to. They're just straight stronger than you. 2SMN or SMN/BLM beats basically everything, no matter what you do.
Sure, killing is best, but they just kill you faster and better if they know what they're doing.
Everything you mentioned is far easier for a summoner to adapt to and beat than it is for someone to adapt to a summoner outright killing them.

The condescending attitude and constant child remarks are hilarious, by the way. The coolest in school.

I mostly think it's funny when people defend the class, or that they're pretty much clueless. That's probably how most people see the ones defending the class.
Not so much with the butthurt, but oh well. :3

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Originally Posted by Quackley

I beat plenty of summoners, actually. The halfway decent and geared ones are basically untouchable though. There's not really much you can adapt to. They're just straight stronger than you. 2SMN or SMN/BLM beats basically everything, no matter what you do.
Sure, killing is best, but they just kill you faster and better if they know what they're doing.
Everything you mentioned is far easier for a summoner to adapt to and beat than it is for someone to adapt to a summoner outright killing them.

The condescending attitude and constant child remarks are hilarious, by the way. The coolest in school.

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"The coolest in school". Huh z_z You've had it that bad eh? ;D

And no, as long as melee's can peel us healers/casters. Taking out a summoner no matter how good they are is easy as 1 2 3. While I'll agree SE PvP is completely unbalanced. What I will not agree with you on is that there are no strategies to take out a SMN/SMN SMN/BLM Etc. The planning skills are just not for you mister. q_q


I'ma hit the sack and remind myself tonight that there are humans with some senses unlike what I've exhibited tonight. z_z ~


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aeuG2de8-Q

Btw *cough The Cleric stance heals was intentional. The lower heal numbers decreases the eminity I place upon the PvP enemies. Yall will see how I catch the aggro once I've start revealing the big numbers. <333 (Bwahahahha I'm not sure if I'm lying or being honest at this point z_z)

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Originally Posted by Cleftobismal

And no, as long as melee's can peel us healers/casters. Taking out a summoner no matter how good they are is easy as 1 2 3. While I'll agree SE PvP is completely unbalanced. What I will not agree with you on is that there are no strategies to take out a SMN/SMN SMN/BLM Etc. The planning skills are just not for you mister. q_q

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You would think, but not really. If it was so easy, SMN/BLM wouldn't be far and away the best comp, or SMN/anything, really. If it's so easy, SMN doing things to counteract it is even easier, considering their strength.
Sure, there's strategies to try and handle them, but they don't work that well, and it's far easier for the summoner to change up his play and crush you.

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Originally Posted by Cleftobismal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aeuG2de8-Q

Btw *cough The Cleric stance heals was intentional. The lower heal numbers decreases the eminity I place upon the PvP enemies. Yall will see how I catch the aggro once I've start revealing the big numbers. <333 (Bwahahahha I'm not sure if I'm lying or being honest at this point z_z)

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I giggled when the tooltips popped up. Bonus points if you can figure out why. :3

I was hoping it'd be something like this, it makes the constant "baddies" comments incredibly funny.

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Originally Posted by Quackley

I giggled when the tooltips popped up. Bonus points if you can figure out why. :3

I was hoping it'd be something like this, it makes the constant "baddies" comments incredibly funny.

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Sorry, I couldn't resist wasting your time as you've tried to waste mine. Give it 30 minutes or so and it will go away. :< I'm glad the truth of my "baddie" comment gave you a laugh. Because it doesn't change the fact that I'm laughing at you, not with you. Now tell me something that's rather important & not dull. Bottom line, is. If I can deal with summoners then others clearly can. Maybe PvP is just not for you Quackley. Good Night child. <3

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Originally Posted by Cleftobismal

Sorry, I couldn't resist wasting your time as you've tried to waste mine. Give it 30 minutes or so and it will go away. :< I'm glad the truth of my "baddie" comment gave you a laugh. Because it doesn't change the fact that I'm laughing at you, not with you. Now tell me something that's rather important & not dull. Bottom line, is. If I can deal with summoners then others clearly can. Maybe PvP is just not for you Quackley. Good Night child. <3

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Okay, okay, spoiler alert.
It's because it means you were clicking.
That plus the keyboard turning makes it funny.

You're sitting here calling people bad when you do both of those things.

So you can deal with a random summoner in your match, yay.
Go ahead and try to queue into one of the decent ones and let us know how it goes. :3

I can tell you how it'll go without it actually happening.
You will die before you can react, especially if you're clicking.

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Originally Posted by Quackley

Okay, okay, spoiler alert.
It's because it means you were clicking.
That plus the keyboard turning makes it funny.

You're sitting here calling people bad when you do both of those things.

So you can deal with a random summoner in your match, yay.
Go ahead and try to queue into one of the decent ones and let us know how it goes. :3

I can tell you how it'll go without it actually happening.
You will die before you can react, especially if you're clicking.

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Not to still stick around after I said good night twice but z_z Are you talking about In game or the actual "I can't watch this Clip, but this tip pops up". [Because right now child your not making any sense] Which brings me to my next question. How do these detail's you've provided proves anything you've said so far. ?_? I'll give you an half hour to clarify then I'll inject myself with benadryl. There is more than meets the eye when it comes to tricking your foes in PvP. z_z After all, I'm sure gaining the attention of both DPS just to give your pt some time to re-strategies their failed plan. q_q

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Originally Posted by Quackley

So you can deal with a random summoner in your match, yay.
Go ahead and try to queue into one of the decent ones and let us know how it goes. :3
I can tell you how it'll go without it actually happening.
You will die before you can react, especially if you're clicking.

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Because having someone in your party looking at the enemy team composition then deciding ill get the summoners attention and possibly the whole enemy team pt on me just so they can pulverize the ILvL90 PvP SMN then sweep the rest is clearly not gonna work. With all the utilities I have at my disposal, I'd like to see this happen when my pt knows what their doing.

What if it's a SMN/SMN pt you say?


Keep Tank at bay.

Have Our Tank Peel Healer.

Baby Sit DPS.

GG

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Originally Posted by Cleftobismal

Not to still stick around after I said good night twice but z_z Are you talking about In game or the actual "I can't watch this Clip, but this tip pops up". [Because right now child your not making any sense] Which brings me to my next question. How do these detail's you've provided proves anything you've said so far. ?_? I'll give you an half hour to clarify then I'll inject myself with benadryl. There is more than meets the eye when it comes to tricking your foes in PvP. z_z After all, I'm sure gaining the attention of both DPS just to give your pt some time to re-strategies their failed plan. q_q

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When you mouse over skills in game, tooltips pop up.
They showed up because you're clicking.

How does keyboard turning and clicking prove anything?

Clicking is not good. It's far slower than keybinds, which isn't as big of a deal in this game as it has a long GCD, but it's still inefficient and slow.

Keyboard turning and backpedaling is the same.
You shouldn't run around saying "people who complain about summoners are just baddies" when you've made it pretty apparent that you don't know basic PvP strategies like that.
No wonder you mentioned not being able to cast on people who run around you.

So, I suppose it proves that your attitude of "everybody sucks" is pretty funny, coming from someone who does both of those things.

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Originally Posted by Cleftobismal

What if it's a SMN/SMN pt you say?
Keep Tank at bay.
Have Our Tank Peel Healer.
Baby Sit DPS.
GG

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And then the summoner globals someone regardless of being sat on.
GG indeed.

You say you can handle summoners just fine, so you posted a video of a BRD/DRG team.
I guess that means you can handle a decently geared/skilled summoner.