To tack on to this - ghost health is effected by the number of people who have entered ghosts before. The reason the WAR skip works is because the WAR can do a full bar of ghost HP in the span of a little more than a GCD.Quote:
Originally Posted by alimdia
If you have more than one person enter a ghost alongside or before the WAR enters their ghost for the cheese the ghost will have too much health (due to the stacking health buffs each time someone enters a ghost) for the Fell Cleave (Onslaught, Upheaval) Fell Cleave to finish the ghost off. At that point everyone else will die.
It's something to keep track of honestly - if multiple people are pulled into ghosts in the first phase it's better to do the ghost phase normally (or just wipe and restart) because the WAR likely can't put out that much dps that quickly. The ghosts have too much health.
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08-18-2018, 07:45 AMMoroMurasaki
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08-18-2018, 12:38 PMKakikoSo, if I'm reading that correctly - it still means the WHM shouldn't have gotten a ghost. Correct? We repeatedly asked that only the WAR get it and repeatedly the WHM and BLM got ghosts. As in, not accidentally got hugged but ran and got their ghost as soon as the ghosts appeared.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki
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08-18-2018, 02:49 PMMoroMurasakiYeah, then there was nothing the WAR could do to save you. Like obviously I don't know if he was doing his cheese correctly but even if he did the ghost would have multiple hp up stacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakiko
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08-19-2018, 08:31 AMbounddreamerIf the warrior is doing the WAR add cheese strat properly, it doesn't matter if there's an extra stack or two of health on the add. Load in, inner release, onslaught, fell cleave/upheaval and maybe a second fell cleave and it's dead and the debuff is gone for the party.Quote:
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Where it can fall apart is if there are any extra server ticks loading in. I used to have that issue on PS4. Never had any issue once I switched to PC. -
08-19-2018, 08:35 AMHowlOfTheDeparted
One from earlier today, against Leviathan, while partied with another member of my FC. Everyone died in the first phase thanks to timing the elemental converter a second too late, and on the second attempt, it happened again but this time everyone but one of the tanks (a DRK) died and the one tank who did survive only did because of the shield from SCH. I laughed like an idiot when both of those happened.
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08-19-2018, 10:47 AMMoroMurasakiThey had a WHM and a BLM both going in each ghost phase, that was almost definitely what was killing them. A well geared WAR might make it through 2 but they might not. I've not seen anyone make it through 3. So if anyone is getting sucked in on the first phase... no way.Quote:
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08-19-2018, 02:23 PMKaivaCHow to feel like an idiot 101
I am not back by any means, but I popped in online because I have absolutely nothing to do at midnight since my body rejects sleep, so logged in and went on AST. Queued for Qarn on normal. First boss, we all died to Doom. I was the last one standing, and I died trying to rez somebody, while forgetting that the panels changed when I got Doom a second time, and died.
Ladies and gentlemen, let me show you how to look like a complete dumbass. The bard in the party starting heckling the BLM in the group. All but the bard reset - they just laid there waiting for me to rez them. I eventually did, and we cleared that boss. Around the part after dealingwith the two stone enemies that open up doors, the bard went to the next area and pulled the mob.
The tank said something weird (to me), so I assumed at this point that the bard was now trolling the party. I tolerated it up til the second boss, when I noticed that they got hit by quite a few AOEs. While still heckling the BLM. When they inevitably died, I let them stay dead. Why waste the MP if the bard is trolling, right?
At this point, I was convinced that they were trolling, so I didn't resurrect them. Me, the tank, and the BLM moved ahead. Again, the bard ran ahead and pulled mobs. Then started trying to open two of the vaults.
Guess what? They messed up and summoned EVEN MORE enemies on top of the crocodile and stone enemy we were dealing with. My MP is super low, even with Lucid, at this point, so I'd had enough. I warned the bard to quit trolling, or else they needed to find a new healer and get reported.
Did that stop them?
Hell no. And I couldn't kick because they wouldn't roll on an item. I had to wait until we reach the very last room with the puzzle, and then I initiated a vote kick. What happened? The damn thing got rejected. I tried again, it got rejected again, and the boss was pulled.
When all was said and done, I started getting emoted on. Which, at this point, made me go from annoyance to legit frustration. Got my loot, left the dungeon, checked my contact list.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a fine example of how to be a dumbass - exemplified by yours truly, Kaiva. See, come to find out, not only are all three of them from one server, but they are all also in the same FC, courtesy of the Lodestone. I don't remember a time I felt so stupid and irritated at the same time. So remember kiddos, don't follow my example and be a dumbass. Research first - cuz you never know if the person you're trying to kick has friends in the party. Now I'm going to log off before a GM starts asking me why I was trying to kick somebody out of the group. BTW, hope you guys are doing alright on the forums. Til next time. -
08-20-2018, 12:36 AMAxHell
So I got kicked once again as WAR.
I was in Sastasha normal and got kicked because I didn't pull more than one pack. They called me bad before kicking me out.
What is wrong with people nowadays...Oh well I let one of them die because he pulled another pack :p
Although strangest thing is that after trying to do Lvl roulette again...I found these whiny little jerks once again in Sohm Al.
And queue 30 minutes penalty. I'm off to play some Monster Hunter World. -
08-20-2018, 02:06 AMMixt
Rathalos Normal.
The Samurai used Limit Break 3 while Rath was flying, didn't even do 1% damage.
The chat went like this
Me: Really?
Samurai: This fight is bugged.
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08-20-2018, 04:28 PMLauraAdalena
Just the other day I was doing a dungeon, I don’t remember which, but I was a white Mage and it was an ARR dungeon. Now, I was helping someone in my FC level their DPS class and stuff, I didn’t need the leveling roulette and just wanted to help a friend.
Friend begins being an asshole and pulling things ahead of us as he’s getting impatient with the tank and pulling ahead to bring back to them. When he does, the tank has a hard time grabbing aggro. However, that’s just the start to the problems. As soon as my friend dies to lack of the tank generating aggro, I realize that with a normal pack he’s really hard to heal. I’m just sitting there scratching my head why he was so hard to heal, tanks SHOULD NOT be hard to heal on small trash. My first reaction to this was to check his gear, and wouldn’t you know he had DPS gear on. And not only that, all of his accessories were gathering/crafting accessories. And I’m just sitting here in shock that this man gets himself dressed in the morning, can get to work and pay for an MMO and get back with enough time to sit back and play without hurting himself... or he’s a kid who his parents pay for him, but I don’t want to theorize that I just want to assume he’s an adult with a paying job, to me it makes it funnier since I will never meet the guy again.