Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

After trying yet again to go towards soot black, i ended up in dalamud red.
Anyone got any advice to share towards getting Soot?

I was thinking maybe 10 apples and 3 mamook pears?
Help me out! ;_;

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Originally Posted by Angelusdemonus

If you get stuck in a loop, I would maybe try Pineapples to get blue values a little lower...they might be too high that you're jumping from Blood Red > Regal Purple.

When I got from Blood Red > Dalamud Red, my chocobo had zero addition of blue values (pure apple feed), and it took 3 total berries to get to Dalamud Red. As mentioned before, the steps I've seen from various posts can be: Blood Red > Dalamud Red > Rolanberry Red > Regal Purple > Royal Blue. (or backwards with apples starting from Royal Blue).

So yeah, if anything, I would focus on slightly lightening blue values. Keep red values high up there.

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Alright. I'll wait to see what happens from this one apple in 58 minutes.

How many messages from the pineapples do you think? Or would that be better to figure out once the 58 minutes are up?

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Originally Posted by MrsVolfield

After trying yet again to go towards soot black, i ended up in dalamud red.
Anyone got any advice to share towards getting Soot?

I was thinking maybe 10 apples and 3 mamook pears?
Help me out! ;_;

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Pears and Berries, actually. You have way too much red, and apples will only make that problem worse. You probably want both in relatively equal numbers.

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Originally Posted by Shyluv

Alright. I'll wait to see what happens from this one apple in 58 minutes.

How many messages from the pineapples do you think? Or would that be better to figure out once the 58 minutes are up?

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I would wait /nod. But I'm more of the cautious/patient type to be honest.

I sorta wish this was more of an exact science XD.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Pears and Berries, actually. You have way too much red, and apples will only make that problem worse. You probably want both in relatively equal numbers.

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Do you know a specific number of what to feed?
113 R 23 B 23 G apparently is what i have on Dalamud red.

So, I've read through about every page in this thread, and I thank everyone for their submissions. I've gotten mine to Ink Blue currently and am waiting on results for Soot Black. I fed it one Pineapple and hope I don't hit the loop I know others are running into.

My theory on fixing the loop scenario. Obviously there might be some RNG involved, and different numbers but we know a value is higher then the others, otherwise the color swap wouldn't continually happen. There has to be a color range that our Chocobos are getting shoved into (*close enough* mechanic) that makes the smaller jumps a little challenging. Wouldn't this be alleviated by 'leveling out' the colors? It wouldn't work at the mid range colors, but for Soot black and obviously a light color like Snow White it should.

What I'm suggesting if you are having the 'loop effect' on Soot black, is to evenly feed darkening fruit to essentially 'bottom out' your colors. Say you are at Ink Blue/Kobold Brown/Deepwood Green and you are looping. Just feed it.. (random guess) x3 of berry/apple/pear, and 'bottom out' your colors (hopefully) to be rather even (close to 0). If this in itself doesn't round you to say.. Soot black, then after the x3 darkening session, start lightening sessions as they should be even. This will bring your r/g/b factors up closely and should result in Soot black by the 2nd or 3rd session IMO.

This is of course theory, but I hope it might help break the loop some are running into. I'm hoping I don't hit the loop myself. If I do, I am going to try this. I will probably not have results till late tonight if anything, but if other people want to try themselves and post results that would be great too.

The other option is of course to try and single out the culprit of the loop.. which is obviously a bit harder to do.. then alternate two of the darkeners (high red = berry + pear sets) to get it even. So that is another option if you have an idea of the culprit. It is obviously a mixed culprit (high red, +med high blue as example) that is giving the loop mixed in with the rounding SE put in for each color, but if you bring one down to similar levels (med - med high) then you'll less likely hit an infinite loop, and more likely round into Soot black.

Sorry for the ramble, I hope one of these methods work for the frustrated people!

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Originally Posted by MrsVolfield

Do you know a specific number of what to feed?
113 R 23 B 23 G apparently is what i have on Dalamud red.

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My theory is that the change each snack gives is random. The only way to do it is to try something that should push you in the right direction (in this case, Berries and Pears), and then see what happens. You never want to stop on a non- "New Feathers" message, because if you don't get the message, there won't be a change. I would do like 5x of each and, assuming you get the message, see where you are before proceeding. If you don't get the message, try more, or you may even want to throw in a Plum or two, but I'd wait on that until your red was lower.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

My theory is that the change each snack gives is random. The only way to do it is to try something that should push you in the right direction (in this case, Berries and Pears), and then see what happens. You never want to stop on a non- "New Feathers" message, because if you don't get the message, there won't be a change. I would do like 5x of each and, assuming you get the message, see where you are before proceeding. If you don't get the message, try more, or you may even want to throw in a Plum or two, but I'd wait on that until your red was lower.

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Here's hoping..

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Originally Posted by Leonesaurus

Ink Blue: 22 (R) / 26 (G) / 34 (B)
Soot Black: 37 (R) / 35 (G) / 30 (B)

22 + 5 = 27
26 + 5 = 31
34 - 5 = 29

NEXT STEP

27 - 5 = 22
31 + 5 = 36
29 + 5 = 34

NEXT STEP

22 + 5 = 27
36 - 5 = 31
34 + 5 = 39

LAST STEP

27 + 5 = "32"
31 + 5 = "36"
39 - 5 = "34"

Your Score: 32 (R) / 36 (G) / 34 (B)
Soot Black: 37 (R) / 35 (G) / 30 (B)

And there you have it. That should get you in the 30's IF the +5/-5 technique actually works, acccording to Noctis Umbra. I've not received results for this but I'm attempting this currently to see if this is correct. Apologies in advance if this is yet another waste of time!

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Confirmation on this?

Update on my endless black loop. I'm at Ink Blue and as suggested to me I did 2 Pineapples and 1 Valfruit... baaaack to Kobold Brown. I went to Kobold Brown last time by using just 1 pineapple.

I think my next step is to "bottom out" my RGB by darkening all the way then math my way up with lightening fruits to try and get to soot range.