"Everyone's so open and friendly" is a lie

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

Why do you feel the need to follow someone into their house and argue with them, though? It just kind of seems weird and aggressive, so it's not that surprising it would make someone feel uncomfortable.

It also technically is something wrong under SE's prohibited activities policy, as it would be classed as "Improper following".

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Where did you get the the word "Follow" from? Its a open venue...

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Originally Posted by Solowing

Where did you get the the word "Follow" from? Its a open venue...

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You don't understand officer, I only went behind the counter because I gave him a twenty and he gave me change for a ten!!!

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Originally Posted by game_enjoyer

i can't believe they just came out and admitted to that. genuinely hilarious to post this as an example and then someone else immediately recognizing u as a serial harasser. poetry, honestly.

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I think the icing on the cake is that they blame everyone else for being the negative snowflake nannies lol

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Originally Posted by Solowing

Where did you get the the word "Follow" from? Its a open venue...

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so for you
"PRIVATE HOUSE" = open venue ...
that is as much interesting as it is disturbing ...
how tf did you came up with the conclusion that a PRIVATE HOUSE that include the word PRIVATE inside,
is a open venue (public place) just how ...

you got some serious issue to work on ...

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Originally Posted by game_enjoyer

i can't believe they just came out and admitted to that. genuinely hilarious to post this as an example and then someone else immediately recognizing u as a serial harasser. poetry, honestly.

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You guys seem to make up your own stories of what happened and kinda go with that. The opinion i had was, people should try to work out the issues they have with their friends here rather then do what i commonly see.

Everyone is hunky dory, until somebody disagrees and 15 minutes later Now you have a fractured friend group split 3 ways. But everyone acts like they they are much tighter knit then the reality. But i guess i was wrong for saying that, and it upset them. But i guess that does validate them threatening a spurious report right?

Im not causing a disruption, they just dont like what i said, and its ok if your feelings are hurt as long as you or anyone else wasn't insulted or attacked.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

You guys seem to make up your own stories of what happened and kinda go with that. The opinion i had was, people should try to work out the issues they have with their friends here rather then do what i commonly see.

Everyone is hunky dory, until somebody disagrees and 15 minutes later Now you have a fractured friend group split 3 ways. But everyone acts like they they are much tighter knit then the reality. But i guess i was wrong for saying that, and it upset them. But i guess that does validate them threatening a spurious report right?

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I think the situation is much simpler actually. You were in someones house and they decided for whatever reason that they didn't want you there and you refused to leave. That's all that matters really.

I get having a difficult conversation and wanting to work through that, but nobody is entitled to that. Such things are a privilege that we simply cannot expect.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

You guys seem to make up your own stories of what happened and kinda go with that. The opinion i had was, people should try to work out the issues they have with their friends here rather then do what i commonly see.

Everyone is hunky dory, until somebody disagrees and 15 minutes later Now you have a fractured friend group split 3 ways. But everyone acts like they they are much tighter knit then the reality. But i guess i was wrong for saying that, and it upset them. But i guess that does validate them threatening a spurious report right?

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In your own screenshot that YOU posted they asked you to leave lol. It's in their own home, doesn't matter if it's an "open venue" or not. Your presence wasn't welcome there, so why would you stay lol? Would you like it if I came to your home and refused to leave when you asked? So why should they like it? They had every right to report you btw

you can restrict access to housing.....
how does this thread have 61 pages

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Originally Posted by dapperfaffer

you can restrict access to housing.....
how does this thread have 61 pages

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It's a basic request to have the ability to refuse access to specific people as opposed to everyone or no one.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

You guys seem to make up your own stories of what happened and kinda go with that.

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You admitted the person they were talking about was you. Full stop. You didn't say "It is, but...", you said "Yeah, that's me, they should have just agreed to disagree. They want to threaten me with a report? Do it."

You gave yourself ZERO wiggle room. You. No one else. Now you want to say "You guys are making things up."

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Originally Posted by anguel

so for you
"PRIVATE HOUSE" = open venue ...
that is as much interesting as it is disturbing ...
how tf did you came up with the conclusion that a PRIVATE HOUSE that include the word PRIVATE inside,
is a open venue (public place) just how ...

you got some serious issue to work on ...

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I have a question, why am i telling you its a open venue, and youre trying to tell otherwise?

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Originally Posted by Solowing

Im not causing a disruption, they just dont like what i said, and its ok if your feelings are hurt as long as you or anyone else wasn't insulted or attacked.

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If people ask you to leave, clearly you're causing something.
If people don't like what you say, accept it and move on.
If people are asking you to leave and you feel entitled to continue being there because "It's an open venue, I paid my sub, I do what I want", then yes you deserve being reported.
If you can't understand this, then it's your personal problem.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

I have a question, why am i telling you its a open venue, and youre trying to tell otherwise?

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If you're told at a public restaurant "Please leave", you are causing a disruption. It's not up to you to decide on whether you are or not, clearly someone there believes so and has every right to ask you to leave.

"Eviction" is a word.

It doesn't matter if it's a "public venue", you're being told to remove yourself from it. It stopped being public for you.

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Originally Posted by DRHaymaker

You admitted the person they were talking about was you. Full stop. You didn't say "It is, but...", you said "Yeah, that's me, they should have just agreed to disagree. They want to threaten me with a report? Do it."

You gave yourself ZERO wiggle room. You. No one else. Now you want to say "You guys are making things up."

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The initial report reason was straight up spurious, and well if you feel like a broke a rule for that report, go ahead. But if youre feelings were hurt off something that wasn't offensive at all, i could care less about how you feel. Report away, didnt do anything, so im not moving.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

You guys seem to make up your own stories of what happened and kinda go with that.

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went specificaly, to read the others thread thoroughly because you said that, and here !

1: harassing them, by saying really fu... up things inside theyre PRIVATE house
2: making message in theyre message board actively filling it up to a point where the FC lead or an officer has to waste time "deleting" your message ... everyday !
3: you going all your way to world transfer from excalibur to go to these people on famfrit
4: doing this for couple of month now ...

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Originally Posted by Solowing

The opinion i had was, people should try to work out the issues they have with their friends

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if these things your doing, is your way of "fixing" a problem with a friend, i dont want to see what youll do to make a problem ...

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Originally Posted by Solowing

The initial report reason was straight up spurious.

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You admitted it was you. Full stop. You have the gall to call it spurious, and then in the exact same post...

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Originally Posted by Solowing

(I) didnt do anything, so im not moving.

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This is an oxymoron. They told you to leave, you didn't. You know they see you as a harasser, and whether you agree with it or not, that's what they see you as. And that's something they have seen you as for 8 times (that we know of). And that's JUST them. You're supposedly well known, so this is not an isolated incident, nor minority opinion.

At "best", you're a simple but dedicated troll. At worst, you're a broken, selfish, lonely person that deserves no sympathy.

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Originally Posted by anguel

went specificaly, to read the others thread thoroughly because you said that, and here !

1: harassing them, by saying really fu... up things inside theyre PRIVATE house
2: making message in theyre message board actively filling it up to a point where the FC lead or an officer has to waste time "deleting" your message ... everyday !
3: you going all your way to world transfer from excalibur to go to these people on famfrit
4: doing this for couple of month now ...


if these things your doing, is your way of "fixing" a problem with a friend, i dont want to see what youll do to make a problem ...

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#1 Nothing messed up was said or done, they simply disagree but went nuclear, if they reported me, nothing ever happened (noone was attacked or insulted)

#2 Not at all, i like going to venues to find someone to have a chat with.

#3 I havent gone to that venue since, because i have no interest is going to a easily offended echo chamber. If having dissenting opinion has player turn on you, that rapidly. I want no part of that group

#4 With S.E as stringent as they are, i dont think id be able to post if i were chronically harassing people...Right? I just think the community is very disingenuous/thin skinned

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Originally Posted by Solowing

#1 Nothing messed up was said or done, they simply disagree but went nuclear, if they reported me, nothing ever happened (noone was attacked or insulted)

#2 Not at all, i like going to venues to find someone to have a chat with.

#3 I havent gone to that venue since, because i have no interest is going to a easily offended echo chamber. If having dissenting opinion has player turn on you, that rapidly. I want no part of that group

#4 With S.E as stringent as they are, i dont think id be able to post if i were chronically harassing people...Right? I just think the community is very disingenuous/thin skinned

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Have you considered that maybe they just don't want to debate or have a fight inside their house? Especially if there are other guests...

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Originally Posted by DRHaymaker

You admitted it was you. Full stop. You have the gall to call it spurious, and then in the exact same post...



This is an oxymoron. They told you to leave, you didn't. You know they see you as a harasser, and whether you agree with it or not, that's what they see you as. And that's something they have seen you as for 8 times (that we know of). And that's JUST them. You're supposedly well known, so this is not an isolated incident, nor minority opinion.

At "best", you're a simple but dedicated troll. At worst, you're a broken, selfish, lonely person that deserves no sympathy.

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You want me to get out the world smallest violin? Ill even play it!

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Originally Posted by Xirean

Have you considered that maybe they just don't want to debate or have a fight inside their house? Especially if there are other guests...

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There is noone fighting, youre simply trying to kick someone out for disagreeing with you, if you wanna just disagree, fine. But trying to go the extra mile? It wasnt a heated debate, just input, but bringing it from 0-100? Yea, you go ahead and fill that ticket out while soiling yourself because you dont feel safe from the player who had a different opinion.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

You want me to get out the world smallest violin? Ill even play it!

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idk about the world's smallest violin, but there isn't a room big enough to fit that massive ego.

Is accepting you've done something bad that hard?

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Originally Posted by Solowing

There is noone fighting, youre simply trying to kick someone out for disagreeing with you

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Yeah. Call it a day and leave. You refusing to leave is a problem. No matter how "public" you think it is. You know... like a normal person!

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Originally Posted by Solowing

You want me to get out the world smallest violin? Ill even play it!

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I figured you were rocking that violin since you started defending yourself, lol.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

You want me to get out the world smallest violin? Ill even play it!

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Like I said - I don't pity you.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

There is noone fighting, youre simply trying to kick someone out for disagreeing with you

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Really poorly argued semantics.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

There is noone fighting, youre simply trying to kick someone out for disagreeing with you, if you wanna just disagree, fine. But trying to go the extra mile? Bringing it from 0-100? Yea you go ahead and fill that ticket out while soiling yourself because you dont feel safe.

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https://pics.me.me/the-point-you-24487436.png

I'm genuinely impressed how quickly we got to the bottom of this. Have a day.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

You guys seem to make up your own stories of what happened and kinda go with that. The opinion i had was, people should try to work out the issues they have with their friends here rather then do what i commonly see.

Everyone is hunky dory, until somebody disagrees and 15 minutes later Now you have a fractured friend group split 3 ways. But everyone acts like they they are much tighter knit then the reality. But i guess i was wrong for saying that, and it upset them. But i guess that does validate them threatening a spurious report right?

Im not causing a disruption, they just dont like what i said, and its ok if your feelings are hurt as long as you or anyone else wasn't insulted or attacked.

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my gamer in christ u are the one who admitted to a very specific allegation that was made by a separate poster, in a separate thread

Careful guys, they might show up at your house to endlessly debate the ethics of not leaving when asked to.

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Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell

Careful guys, they might show up at your house to endlessly debate the ethics of not leaving when asked to.

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Jokes on you, I'm homeless :D

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Originally Posted by Xirean

Jokes on you, I'm homeless :D

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Darn, the perfect defense...!

this is so funny, i can't stop laughing at this. waht a good day

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Originally Posted by anguel

went specificaly, to read the others thread thoroughly because you said that, and here !

1: harassing them, by saying really fu... up things inside theyre PRIVATE house
2: making message in theyre message board actively filling it up to a point where the FC lead or an officer has to waste time "deleting" your message ... everyday !
3: you going all your way to world transfer from excalibur to go to these people on famfrit
4: doing this for couple of month now ...



if these things your doing, is your way of "fixing" a problem with a friend, i dont want to see what youll do to make a problem ...

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I dont mess with interpersonal Ff14 people issues anymore. Most of it is steeped in RP/RL mixxing. Most of it is built on appearances over substance.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

There is noone fighting, youre simply trying to kick someone out for disagreeing with you, if you wanna just disagree, fine. But trying to go the extra mile? It wasnt a heated debate, just input, but bringing it from 0-100? Yea, you go ahead and fill that ticket out while soiling yourself because you dont feel safe from the player who had a different opinion.

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That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

Npcs > other players

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Originally Posted by game_enjoyer

my gamer in christ u are the one who admitted to a very specific allegation that was made by a separate poster, in a separate thread

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I dont know what youre talking about as i havent seen the thread, mind linking it?

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Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell

Careful guys, they might show up at your house to endlessly debate the ethics of not leaving when asked to.

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Your house better be designed well when i show up at least lol

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Originally Posted by hagare

are you..... Are you refusing to leave someone's house after being asked to?

are you the one being talked about in this thread?
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ssment-In-Game

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ya here u go brother, it's attached in the exact same post u replied to lmfao

this is like some looney tunes skit where a guy keeps stepping on rakes over and over

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Originally Posted by Solowing

Your house better be designed well when i show up at least lol

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Actually haven't looked inside in in the past half year, tho my fc lead has some good taste when it comes to decor. Hope you enjoy it ^_^

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Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell

Actually haven't looked inside in in the past half year, tho my fc lead has some good taste when it comes to decor. Hope you enjoy it ^_^

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I do enjoy housing, so might drop in one of these days, just to see.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

idk about the world's smallest violin, but there isn't a room big enough to fit that massive ego.

Is accepting you've done something bad that hard?



Yeah. Call it a day and leave. You refusing to leave is a problem. No matter how "public" you think it is. You know... like a normal person!

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What have i done to warrant being kicked out is kinda my hang-up. Being DMed to leave maybe would've been a more polite way to do it. But to try to make a public shame session out of it? Due to me saying that people should try to work out their issues made them peg me as an enabler?

I was saying what i believe, ya know. I feel like friends can work out their issues, the common issue i see here is friendships are kinda built on flimsy superficial appearances, that fall apart at the seams the moment a bump in the road happens.

But i will keep this in mind.

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Originally Posted by game_enjoyer

ya here u go brother, it's attached in the exact same post u replied to lmfao

this is like some looney tunes skit where a guy keeps stepping on rakes over and over

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Let me get this straight.

Im not stalking them.

Im not harassing them.

Im not insulting them.

Im not saying anything derogatory to any group or person.

But i can be threatened to be reported for making them feel unsafe?

FF14 needs to stop babying peoples emotions, if im not breaking the rules, shove that report. People need to stop thinking anything is reportable that slightly rubs them the wrong way

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Originally Posted by Solowing

Let me get this straight.

Im not stalking them.

Im not harassing them.

Im not insulting them.

Im not saying anything derogatory to any group or person.

But i can be threatened to be reported for making them feel unsafe?

FF14 needs to stop babying peoples emotions, if im not breaking the rules, shove that report. People need to stop thinking anything is reportable that slightly rubs them the wrong way

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u are harassing them. it might be juvenile to u and it might even be juvenile to them, but they asked u to respect their privacy/boundaries/space and u are responding by doing the thing kids do where they put their hand in front of someone's face and go, "i'm not touching you! i'm not touching you!" ff14 absolutely has an issue with people being too quick to report, but u seem to have an issue with maturity and/or entitlement.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

What have i done to warrant being kicked out is kinda my hang-up. Being DMed to leave maybe would've been a more polite way to do it. But to try to make a public shame session out of it? Due to me saying that people should try to work out their issues made them peg me as an enabler?

I was saying what i believe, ya know. I feel like friends can work out their issues, the common issue i see here is friendships are kinda built on flimsy superficial appearances, that fall apart at the seams the moment a bump in the road happens.

But i will keep this in mind.

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If you were as argumentative and persistent as you are in this thread, then it is most certainly considered disruptive inside someone's private home, venue or no. Here your postings tells me, you have to have the last word and feel that you're right in everything you say, no matter what. You keep digging the hole deeper and deeper, validating the points that others have made in this thread. I think knowing when to walk away is the bigger lesson.