About the World Merge and Character Transfers (02/09/2012)

Wow I was looking forward to picking server seven to play with trabians but I guess the moaners are getting their way again lol..

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

Wow I was looking forward to picking server seven to play with trabians but I guess the moaners are getting their way again lol..

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You can still pick whatever server you want. I'm not sure what the problem is.

And I wasn't whining, I was complaining.


Would you like to hear me whine?

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

Wow I was looking forward to picking server seven to play with trabians but I guess the moaners are getting their way again lol..

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Nono bottle of alcoholic beverage, they're not "whiners", they're "the real community who'll be torn asundeeeeeeeer because they don't communicate with friends outside of the game."

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

Wow I was looking forward to picking server seven to play with trabians but I guess the moaners are getting their way again lol..

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You'll probably still have the option to play with trabians as long as SE announces which current servers are merging to what server # and you just need to move to trabians new server #.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Most likely, but it really depends on what they set the server caps in general since realistically even though it may bring back some numbers, honestly speaking it likely won't be such a huge influx it can greatly skew things.

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You are most likely correct. I just want to be certain. 1 additional month for confirmation will not hurt as Yoshi-P has said money was not a consideration.

^^ Well that resolved everything didn't it.

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

Wow I was looking forward to picking server seven to play with trabians but I guess the moaners are getting their way again lol..

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So then transfer to whatever server the Trabians end up?

Stop whining over a non-issue. Did you even read what Option 2 says? It still allows for transfers.

If they had done the poll ahead of time none of this would have happened. Personally I could care less how the worlds merge...I'll live =P

Paradox Resolved.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

Paradox Resolved.

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Win post. I wonder if it was shaped like yoshi p's face....

Greetings all,

Yoshida's most recent post lets players know the current plan for the World Merge.

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

Hello everyone, Producer/Director Yoshida here.

I’d first like to thank you for all of your posts.
I’ve been looking at the threads across all regions and I’m sorry that this has caused a huge disturbance amongst each of the regions.

Currently, we're seeing a lot of feedback that favors plan ②, and we're considering revisions that use plan ② as a base while retaining the merits of plan ④. The operations and development teams will continue to gather everyone’s feedback while we investigate further. This is also a technical matter and we also need to confirm schedule timing, so I’m sorry to say that we’ll need some additional time and that this will continue through the weekend and into the start of next week.

For the Topics announcement, we considered temporarily taking it down, but we decided against that as we feared that if players were unable to see the information, you wouldn’t be able to discuss it with the same background knowledge. Therefore, we’ll be keeping the current announcement up as we go into next week.

Just to reiterate, there are a lot of players that are voicing their concerns, and we will strive to find an acceptable balance as much as possible before moving forward. Therefore please keep this in mind and try to understand our reasoning.

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Originally Posted by Murugan

So then transfer to whatever server the Trabians end up?

Stop whining over a non-issue. Did you even read what Option 2 says? It still allows for transfers.

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Well it does change things, what's to say my linkshell will want to go with me if they could just all autotransfer to the same server?

*gives you a hug because you clearly need one lol

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Just to reiterate, there are a lot of players that are voicing their concerns, and we will strive to find an acceptable balance as much as possible before moving forward. Therefore please keep this in mind and try to understand our reasoning.

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Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I hope you guys make the right decision.

Thanks for the official on this Bayohne.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Hello everyone.

I appreciate your patience as we worked to get Yoshida's post translated. Please take a look.

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"I was chosen to LEAD, not to READ"

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Originally Posted by Yoshida

Just to reiterate, there are a lot of players that are voicing their concerns, and we will strive to find an acceptable balance as much as possible before moving forward. Therefore please keep this in mind and try to understand our reasoning.

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I understand that it is technically more difficult to do plan B than plan D, but as a now paying customer I simply do not care. I am not only contributing to the support of the game, but am referring friends and family to play. You need more being brought to the table now to validate payment. You can't hold the same standard of customer service as you did before when it was free.

Since when did a customer get a version of what they asked for that was easier technically on the worker? We're not talking about harsh conditions or the like. We're just talking about how you MAY have to do more planning in work for the more logical option in server merging. Then do it. No one is going to be sympathetic and compromise for a half assed version of it because it's your job to see it through with the quality you and your company promised the player base. Remember? Or did they really mean that we should start paying so that FFXIV can work it's way to the middle?

While none of us can stop it now, as long as we can spread the info to derail NEW server rage threads...

I can't lock mine and it's been rendered largely obsolete with the new information. There will be a lot of folks that won't read the Dev Tracker responses and all they'll see on the front page is Hot Coffees relating to server merges.

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

While none of us can stop it now, as long as we can spread the info to derail NEW server rage threads...

I can't lock mine and it's been rendered largely obsolete with the new information. There will be a lot of folks that won't read the Dev Tracker responses and all they'll see on the front page is Hot Coffees relating to server merges.

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Spam quote Baho! Stop the rage! Save the forums!

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Originally Posted by BrusselSprout

Spam quote Baho! Stop the rage! Save the forums!

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The forums can't be saved. They can only be destroyed slower.

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

The forums can't be saved. They can only be destroyed slower.

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So true...so true.

A 2-4 fusion might work out nicely.

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

A 2-4 fusion might work out nicely.

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Though option 2 has option 4 built into it essentially. Merge two servers and allow those who want to join another server to do so. Existing communities are not split unless anyone willingly leaves for another server.

Poll update

A + B⇒A World to merge with B World
8% (30)

A + B - X ⇒A World to merge with B World, except people that would like to move are able to choose a different World
62% (239)

A + B - C ⇒A World to merge with B World, except people that would like to move are able to choose to go to C World
2% (8)

Prepare 10 Worlds, set a limit, and give everyone the power to move their characters to a World of their choice.
28% (106)

Total votes: 383

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

The forums can't be saved. They can only be destroyed slower.

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I think I'm going to put that in my sig for a bit.

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Originally Posted by Leela

Poll update

A + B⇒A World to merge with B World
8% (30)

A + B - X ⇒A World to merge with B World, except people that would like to move are able to choose a different World
62% (239)

A + B - C ⇒A World to merge with B World, except people that would like to move are able to choose to go to C World
2% (8)

Prepare 10 Worlds, set a limit, and give everyone the power to move their characters to a World of their choice.
28% (106)

Total votes: 383

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That puts what... roughly 3% of the player base voted?

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Originally Posted by Narfalicious

That puts what... roughly 3% of the player base voted?

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Good enough for me! *calls it*

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That puts what... roughly 3% of the player base voted?

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A poll is measuring tool to get a general idea of what people think, a poll does not relay on a 100% participation to reflect the general opinion, of course the more people take part, the more accurate it gets all though studies show that around 100 participants the percentages do not change that much in relation to each other.

So if you poll 100 people and the result is A:20 votes and B:80 votes you will roughly see on 200 people polled A:40 votes and B: 160 votes

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Originally Posted by Narfalicious

That puts what... roughly 3% of the player base voted?

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even though it's only 3% of players this is a good idea on how the thinking of players want this merger to become.

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Originally Posted by Leela

A poll is measuring tool to get a general idea of what people think, a poll does not relay on a 100% participation to reflect the general opinion, of course the more people take part, the more accurate it gets all though studies show that around 100 participants the percentages do not change that much in relation to each other.

So if you poll 100 people and the result is A:20 votes and B:80 votes you will roughly see on 200 people polled A:40 votes and B: 160 votes

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Provided that the sample is from a well varied cross-section of the total population, I somehow doubt that forum goers make a good sample. Especially since its a voluntary vote. I'm sure a fair amount of people see it, say meh, not worth the click.

It also looks like the poll has no log in making it easy to vote multiple times.

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Originally Posted by Narfalicious

That puts what... roughly 3% of the player base voted?

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LOL roughly... because the rest of the population was 'okay' with the current plans and/or already adjusted. SE should just make up their minds. Because this is actually a worse nightmare when they keep switching it on us. (That said, something that allows 'retired' players to return to the server of their friends is awesome...and option 2 does just that.)

Narfalicious, there are 16 different countries that voted at this point, also advanced anti-cheat is enabled, I'm just wondering why you object so much to people trying to make an effort of getting the right decision made, and with the right derision I mean the one that the majority is happy with and not my personal perseverance.

Yes it would have been way better if SE made a poll and controlled it them selves, but they did not, so this is the best I can do.

I don't see why you find it so important to nit-pick on the how and what might not right with the poll, whats you point? or better yet what are you trying to achieve?

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Originally Posted by Leela

Narfalicious, there are 16 different countries that voted at this point, also advanced anti-cheat is enabled, I'm just wondering why you object so much to people trying to make an effort of getting the right decision made, and with the right derision I mean the one that the majority is happy with and not my personal perseverance.

Yes it would have been way better if SE made a poll and controlled it them selves, but they did not, so this is the best I can do.

I don't see why you find it so important to nit-pick on the how and that might not right with the poll, whats you point? or better yet what are you trying to achieve?

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His point is that the data is skewed and completely not accurate at all, completely redundant in otherwords?

I am having a big headache to try to choose the server, because there is other player with the same character name.

There is a way to know if the server you are going to enter will be the same as other player with same name?
We will be noticed if other player in other server will go to the one we wish?
I want to talk about this with that player but I'm unable to do that, hope this issue is taken in mind.

I want to choose the server with my friends, but also I want to keep my identity without have to change my character name.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings all,

Yoshida's most recent post lets players know the current plan for the World Merge.

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Number two is better IMO.

Most people should feel better after number 2 is released.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings all,

Yoshida's most recent post lets players know the current plan for the World Merge.

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Awesome news. Thank you Yoshida for the info, and Bayohne for the translation. I'm happy to see the community's feedback really being taken into account on this matter.

Honestly, I would have been fine with either option as they wouldn't affect me anyways. But I would still vote for 2 because it seems the fairest for everyone else, especially those with multiple Linkshells. Only thing that still bothers me is hidden names, but if you still choose to keep them hidden I'll get over it.

Only suggestion I'd make is give us entirely new server names. You can still follow past FF towns, just give us new ones. This way it may be easier for people to feel like one entire community instead of World A playing on World B's server.

#Bastok or #Tavnazia

I'm down with Twitter hashing.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings all,

Yoshida's most recent post lets players know the current plan for the World Merge.

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Hopefully they will change to option 2. Good to hear that you guys are taking this seriously...because the option 4 could potential damage the game community in an irreversible way. But by just hearing you guys are looking foward to change to option 2 is already a relief! ^^

I really think the current plan could be better. Why does everyone have to blindly choose a new server? Why can't the low population servers be merged into larger population servers, with an opportunity for anyone who wants to to pick a new world? Example: Low-pop server A merges into High-pop server B, and are renamed Server 1. When those players log in, they are presented with and option to "Choose to merge into Server 1. (previously server A and B) or choose Server's 2-10. This is the best of both worlds imo.

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Originally Posted by Lienn

Hopefully they will change to option 2. Good to hear that you guys are taking this seriously...because the option 4 could potential damage the game community in an irreversible way.

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Not really, maybe those who had zero contact with friends and lsmates outside of the game, sure.

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Originally Posted by Resheph

I really think the current plan could be better. Why does everyone have to blindly choose a new server? Why can't the low population servers be merged into larger population servers, with an opportunity for anyone who wants to to pick a new world? Example: Low-pop server A merges into High-pop server B, and are renamed Server 1. When those players log in, they are presented with and option to "Choose to merge into Server 1. (previously server A and B) or choose Server's 2-10. This is the best of both worlds imo.

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That's what option 2 is.