Dark Devices - Exploitation

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Originally Posted by GiseleValkyrie

Again if you are going in there just to piss people off then it could be the same as that if you just want to do the fate i don't see it as griefing as people said there are people who make parties who solo thing to do is grief the others farming is what I am saying I'm not lumpping normal players in with them

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I didn't mention anywhere that I wanted to piss people off, I'm just playing the FATE how it was designed to be played, regardless of if it's working as intended or not. I want my GC seals and I will do what I need to do in order to get them.

this is a funny thread.

Basically you're the bad guy now if you actually play the game it was intended to be played.

Good news is that Devs will let us play and level the way we really want. I am actually very surprised, in a good way.

I , for one, am very happy :)

Again, the CM has stated that the "way the game is intended to be played" is exactly what people are doing now.

So if you're ending it early because you believe this is the "intended way" you're wrong, or at the very least, you're not doing it efficiently as others have stated.

That being said, its perfectly valid to end it early.

Because...even if you do get into a FATE group, which is not guaranteed when people are busy busting their butts farming the waves of adds, you are not guaranteed good xp from it.

If you aren't one of the first groups there, camping one of the 3? spawn spots, or if there are too many people there for you to see the adds, then you lose.

You get maybe 1 kill every 30 or 40 seconds for that, which is, needless to say, horrendous xp.

So hey, I see no problem with you going off and ending it, to get your 10k->12k->20k->40k xp quicker.

When I was leveling, if I couldn't get into a FATE party for the first part of DD I went and did the other FATEs in the area - I amassed more exp and seals then I would have waiting for the people farming DD to finish it. Then, I would head over and finish the last 3 parts.

I don't really see a big deal with it considering how stupidly easy it is to get to max level your saving, what? 2 hours of extra work.
The problem with mmo's is that people don't want to put the time into them that should be required. They've essentially went from games with a virtual world you become engrossed in to a single player game with multiplayer options and no immersion.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

Basically you're the bad guy now if you actually play the game it was intended to be played.

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No, you're the bad guy if you're making a big deal out of it. Move on with your life and try not to cause drama like complaining about something when almost the entire community is against you.

Then "almost the entire community" has a serious entitlement problem. I can't wait for people who have such little interest in anything other than speeding to 50 as quickly as possible to get bored and quit. The game will be much better off for their absence.

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Originally Posted by Bufkus

No, you're the bad guy if you're making a big deal out of it. Move on with your life and try not to cause drama like complaining about something when almost the entire community is against you.

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I don't think you should say 'almost the entire community is against you' based on a limited number of people posting on the forums. If you look at FFXIV Reddit, they have 2x as many people saying the complete opposite (and usually making fun of us that actually do post on these forums) in older threads. Newer threads since the mod comments have had less hate though (and generally a more 'whatever' mentality).

That being said, since the mods said it's fine, w/e.