The hell was square thinking with mining/botanist.

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Originally Posted by Wolfhammer

Sorry but I have to point out the irony of you screaming about people being averse to putting in even a slight bit of effort, when you yourself don't mind saying you spammed leves for 3 days and hit 50. You could have done 1 to 50 without leaves but you preferred the easy option.

Your argument is empty....

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This isn't really ironic, he just pointing out that currently its REALLY EASY to level field/tradecrafts and STILL people want an easier route. pointing out the fishing EXP differences is an empty argument.

Using leves is an easier way to level but it does take some planning and saving of allowances and its available to everyone, so no one should be complaining about wanting more EXP for the little work already required to get to 50.

Now maybe low level ores will actually worth something since people wont have one full inventory worth of said items every few levels.

Hey, guys. I started Botany last week. Just got to 31.5 tonight before maintenance started. I think Botany and Mining levels at a perfect pace considering it only takes 1.5hrs per level. The way i'm looking at is i'm trying to complete my logging achievements so I stopped using levequests for leveling and making every swing count. Not only do you get materials to sell like this but you're working on your achievement. I know the Axe of the Luminary has the SAME STATS as the quest axe but I read somewhere that SE might implement using the Luminary Axe as an upgradable tool. To me, this is probably what they intended with making each swing low exp. The point of gathering jobs is to WORK. With this new update coming out tomorrow, I feel it's gonna hurt the economy with letting everyone level gathering jobs faster. Botany/Mining is perfect the way it is, I wish they weren't changing it for whiners that don't know how to put in work in an MMO.

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Originally Posted by DukeBurden

Hey, guys. I started Botany last week. To me, this is probably what they intended with making each swing low exp. The point of gathering jobs is to WORK. With this new update coming out tomorrow, I feel it's gonna hurt the economy with letting everyone level gathering jobs faster. Botany/Mining is perfect the way it is, I wish they weren't changing it for whiners that don't know how to put in work in an MMO.

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I don't think people who work in Mining in real life want to come home and keep working on mining...again.

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You might find that the ability to farm Ore and Botany stuff isn't quite the same as the desire. The most lucrative mining and botany is shards. Everyone can farm them now. It just sucks hard to do it. If you are a gatherer at heart, I wouldn't worry about becoming any less useful. Most loath the thoughts of gathering, anything. They will level the class and then never use it.

Is anyone noticing higher experience on gathering classes? My miner is only level 14 right now so maybe it's too low to notice the difference and my BOT is 50 so I don't get experience so it's hard to tell.

Hey, guys. How long was the update for FFXIV? I'm currently at work so I have to wait to get home and do it on my PS3. Curious to see what the updates did to Botany and some of the level 50 dungeons. I wish they'd tell us exactly what they did versus just giving us a brief bullet.

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38 BTN here, and here's my take on it.

Leveling was slow and boring. I don't think it'll hurt the economy at all. In fact, I think it'll help the low-mid level gathering because people will spend overall less time at a certain level, therefore they will gather a lot less of the items for that level.

My 30-35 got me something like 10 stacks plus a couple stacks of HQ Flax, with plenty left over even after using nothing but Linen to get my WVR from 35-50. Flax on my server is usually somewhere around 80g per stack, with tons of undercutting from people overfarming it.

People tend to stop gathering certain items on two conditions. The first, is when their crafting class no longer needs the item for crafting. The second, is when their gathering class out-levels the item. The first one is an easy condition to fill, because crafting classes level FAST. The second one is generally a LOT slower, and results in a surplus of items for that level that will end up going to the MP.

So the less time people spend in certain level ranges, the more money we can stand to make from items in those level ranges. Sure, high-level items might decrease in price. But not everyone likes gathering enough to take it to max after they've already maxed their crafting; at least not as many compared to the people only gathering to level their crafting.

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Hey, guys. How long was the update for FFXIV? I'm currently at work so I have to wait to get home and do it on my PS3. Curious to see what the updates did to Botany and some of the level 50 dungeons. I wish they'd tell us exactly what they did versus just giving us a brief bullet.

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My level 29 miner is seeing xp gains from regular mining in the neighborhood of 50% for a successful chain of 4 on a node. Was getting ~830 xp last night per 4-chain and seeing 1200+ xp today on the same nodes at the same level.

A buddy of mine suggested I level weaving and carpentry while I gather. Crafting seems easy enough in this game. I could level weaving to 50 in like 2 types of ingreds from what I\\'ve read. People just cap 50 using flax. I\\'ll just get around to that when I finish botany. I don\\'t feel any rush to level crafting when they all use the same formula. Use a low leve, spam to 50.