Back Paddling is horrible.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

How droll.

You obviously dont care what anyone else thinks so no point in trying to talk to the brick wall you continue to reinforce with comments like that. You know nothing of the MMOs let alone what games I play so I would apreciate you not assuming things about me because of my preferences.

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Your right I know nothing of mmo's lol I have only been playing them for 6 years... why would you even say I have never played an mmo then say backpedaling is dumb it literally makes no sense in the same sentence... I am trying to tell you that if you change your ways on the control of your character you will be an amazing player you have to learn these new controls in any modern mmo. I had a 2310 rated arena team in world of warcraft back in Cataclysm. I can't even begin to explain how hard that is to do... maybe others on here will know.

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Originally Posted by Thebard

Exactly right.

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what exactly is this advantage

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Originally Posted by casker

what exactly is this advantage

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you will find out later I guess lol its pretty clear that no proof can be shown on here, but if you don't learn and the boss fights/pvp fights are anything like modern mmo's you will fall behind fast.

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Originally Posted by pool842

you will find out later I guess lol its pretty clear that no proof can be shown on here, but if you don't learn and the boss fights/pvp fights are anything like modern mmo's you will fall behind fast.

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please enlighten me, what is the advantage of having the backward move key turned into a walk backward key rather than a turn around and run key. what functional advantage does this have that makes it so much better

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Originally Posted by casker

please enlighten me, what is the advantage of having the backward move key turned into a walk backward key rather than a turn around and run key. what functional advantage does this have that makes it so much better

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create an account in world of warcraft or SWTOR and i will show you first hand. there are many reason. some have to do with control some have to do with dodge/parry/miss, RNG some games make you take more damage from the back side, some games daze or confuse your toon from the back side.. but I guess if you can take out all of the above mechanics out of final fantasy xiv and well make it boring as hell then sure go ahead add a run back key. but if you ran away from my monk in wow or my assassin in SWTOR you would pay for it with your LIFE lol... just kidding but really, you would.. I know in wow especially in pvp running form a melee that is not crowd controlled or stunned or somthing is about the worst thing you can do. by putting your back to a melee in wow for example. you lose all ability to dodge/parry or have them miss you, and you have small chance to get dazed and take critical hits more, which would make sense in real fight. But pvp aside Pve content is made much easier to see and control your toon in relation to boss. Again if you want to take all the mechanics out of a game so that the back side no longer matters then sure do it but have fun in that snooze fess.

I have played wow, bro.

Daze, extra damage from backstab and what not, could all be implemented without backpedaling. It wouldn't remove the mechanics from the game, it would actually probably increase your exposure to being hit from behind if you try to run in PvP, but also allow you to counter it if you turn at the right time. It wouldn't necessarily be bad but it would be different, and you'd have to adjust your playstyle and the way you move, and when to move.

But anyway backpedaling is probably in the game to stay. And apparently, so is the ability to go 180 a-la 1.0. The problem is that console users need a way to have the same level of mobility to perform this 180 turn and not be auto-gimped into "keyboard turners" just because they don't use a mouse.

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Originally Posted by casker

I have played wow, bro.

Daze, extra damage from backstab and what not, could all be implemented without backpedaling. It wouldn't remove the mechanics from the game, it would actually probably increase your exposure to being hit from behind if you try to run in PvP, but also allow you to counter it if you turn at the right time. It wouldn't necessarily be bad but it would be different, and you'd have to adjust your playstyle and the way you move, and when to move.

But anyway backpedaling is probably in the game to stay. And apparently, so is the ability to go 180 a-la 1.0. The problem is that console users need a way to have the same level of mobility to perform this 180 turn and not be auto-gimped into "keyboard turners" just because they don't use a mouse.

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Ya I agree

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

Agree. i hate backpadling aswell.
Also how are u gonna see your character's face ever.
like taking screenshots with your ls and stuff is gonna be past....

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What lol? Not true. You can always turn the camera any way you want if you're just hanging out with LS/FC members or whatever. You'll see your face often if you want to..

As far as backpedalling it's actually easier and gives you more control. Using the right mouse button to turn quickly and precisely is something that might take getting used to for some people but once you got it, you'll find that it's an easier way to control your character. I want to say 'in my opinion' cause everyone's different but I don't think it's something you could dislike once you get used to it. Maybe I'm wrong but when you learn how to do it efficiently, it's not going to hinder you.

But on PS3 I can't see this being a great thing at all. That's a different story because you can't do a 180 instantly like you can with a mouse. Your camera will move at a certain speed no matter how far you're pushing that right thumbstick. They'll be at a disadvantage especially in PvP no matter how you look at it. Nothing you can really do about that.. It's a matter of controls.

wow I can't believe how rude people are getting over this subject. To each their own. Some people find the default restraining, some like it.

People are saying: "oh I have played mmo's more/longer than you so I KNOW what your preference should be!"
If that was the case, wouldn't the games designers not even allow us to re-map buttons?

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Originally Posted by Thebard

If thats not sarcasm then I pity you.

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Cuse i like seeing my charactyer's pretty awesome face? you'd want to see your character's face too if it was as beautiful as mine.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

"back pedaling" is a natural movement in real life.. (especially in combat)

so why it shound be ingame? tell me more..



and i know MANY MMorpgs who work like that.. Dark Age of camelot etc... and the movement is good.. i say why shouldnt i walk backwards with my character?



it would look handicapped if i only were able to walk forwards... or are you doing like that in real life? JUST walking forward?

strange opinions around here..
hopefully Yoshi p. wont listen to those "shitty" voices and creates a NEW game, with MANY differences in comparison to 1.0.


LET 1.0. FUCKING GO! God damn..

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Really? well since u wanna hear more imma tell you.
In FFXIV you could be normally walking in any direction when outside of battle but also lock on the target when in combat mode and backpaddle or whatevs it's called. now in ARR backpaddling is an ALWAYS ON effect. you can't really turn it off and turn your camera around your character. the character will turn around with the camera and you will allways bee seeing his back.
Did you get this?
read carefully please.

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Originally Posted by IloveYouPumpkin

What lol? Not true. You can always turn the camera any way you want if you're just hanging out with LS/FC members or whatever. You'll see your face often if you want to..

As far as backpedalling it's actually easier and gives you more control. Using the right mouse button to turn quickly and precisely is something that might take getting used to for some people but once you got it, you'll find that it's an easier way to control your character. I want to say 'in my opinion' cause everyone's different but I don't think it's something you could dislike once you get used to it. Maybe I'm wrong but when you learn how to do it efficiently, it's not going to hinder you.

But on PS3 I can't see this being a great thing at all. That's a different story because you can't do a 180 instantly like you can with a mouse. Your camera will move at a certain speed no matter how far you're pushing that right thumbstick. They'll be at a disadvantage especially in PvP no matter how you look at it. Nothing you can really do about that.. It's a matter of controls.

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Well so far all vids i have seen from alpha when he turns his camera around the character always turns too. I aint in Alpha so i only see what they show in the vids.