SE, don't overthink Summoner 7.0. Just give people what they want. Just do it.

Well, seeing a part of FF16's use of Eikons, I can see where some of that idea went into each other for that and XIV's summoner.
>Level 90 summoner
>Can only summon a measly 5 summons.
I worry that SE will use the caster DPS slot for 7.0 to try and steer the ship, but it's going to put them in a lose lose situation. If they don't do anything for the concerns, then people are just going to jump ship and consider it a dead job, but if they do a drastic shift and don't include any new caster, then people will assume they used the spot for the sake of it.
But summoner needs the other 3 primals to liven things up a bit. Hell, make any support or utility based on a summon's "skill" as well. If there's a primal that would fit for keeping the rez, then there's that option as well.

As long they don't make me press 50+ buttons they can do whatever, really gets old when having to press so many buttons.

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Originally Posted by Laytnor

Just...give me my dots back and ability to spread them with miasma. Maybe a new gauge that gradually gets filled up by dots which allows you to summon something new when it's full or perform some kind of attack so that the "DOTS R POINTLESS" crowd shuts up.

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I think the ability you are looking for is Bane, Miasma was just another DoT with a different timer.

This is the greatest thing I have ever read... The only thing I would suggest is Leviathan be sapphire and Shiva be aquamarine (ice element is already usually colored a light blue or near white in this game, I think), and for summons to have cast bars for suspense/impact. The slow GCDs for Ifrit phase can be moved over to that

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Originally Posted by DustyBlue

This is the greatest thing I have ever read... The only thing I would suggest is Leviathan be sapphire and Shiva be aquamarine (ice element is already usually colored a light blue or near white in this game, I think), and for summons to have cast bars for suspense/impact. The slow GCDs for Ifrit phase can be moved over to that

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Shiva's weapons (unupgraded, lower ilvl versions with no glow) were called Shiva's Diamond Axe etc, I don't see why they wouldn't use Diamond for her

delete gemshine spam

I will personally would like to have something of 2.0 and 6.0 smn mix where it debuffs and some sort of way to control summons with like the kind of system it has now would make it more interesting or have the 90 smn abilities as the regular smn abilities and add the debuffs to mix in rotation or something like that I kinda miss giving dots up the ass with shadow flare and then burst mode.

Nah, we'll just get "Lunar" primal upgrades. Instead of Fire/Wind/Earth aspect spells, we get generic purple beams of energy.

Garuda's ground DoT (I forget the name) just becomes Shadowflare.
Lunar Bahamuat and Ifrit already exist so it won't be hard to code them in without much issue there.
That just leaves Phoenix, Garuda and Titan's models that need upgrades and I can totally see them reusing Eden Garuda and Titan and P3 Phoenix modes for those with a purple shading.

I hope that I'm wrong but the odds of this happening aren't exactly 0% either.

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Originally Posted by Sinesters

As long they don't make me press 50+ buttons they can do whatever, really gets old when having to press so many buttons.

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Making me press 3/2 buttons over and over gets older much faster for me :)

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Originally Posted by Sottiri

Making me press 3/2 buttons over and over gets older much faster for me :)

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It could've been worse. They could've made Gemshine just replace Ruin when a Primal was active.

Honestly, I'm convinced the only reason they didn't do that, was cause then SMN's hotbar would be even more barren that it already is. I put Physick on my bar just to hide the void of nothingness that is SMN