We anticipate that even with this update, third parties will continue

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Originally Posted by AshDidit

SO you've basically punished the law/rule abiding players for what criminals have done

But... you ADMIT that the criminals will CONTINUE doing it?

And you've limited what we can give to our friends (of 72 hours or more) to the most ridiculous 'gift' items you sell? So.. I can no longer give my bestie a minion because some RMT scumbag bought one and resold it in game for gil? GIL?! PIXEL MONEY?

I am being restricted... over pixel money... and other people's criminal behavior that you ADMIT OPENLY they are still ABLE TO DO?

Why did you not just make it so that the items can only be bought with credit cards and make it so those credit cards have to match exactly the name and address on the account buying it?

THAT would have actually LESSENED the RMT activity of using 'stolen credit cards' to RMT mog items...

That would reduce the number of people reselling items because it can be immediately tracked back to the player...

All your 'fix' does is punish those of us who would never abuse the system to begin with.

A complete 'jerk move'. I do not approve. Let me give my friends minions again.

#freetheminions
sheesh

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Just transfer the money to your friend and they will get it on the shop, what's wrong with your people overacting with this? SE its always right and they made the best game ever in the history of MMO'S

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Just transfer the money to your friend and they will get it on the shop, what's wrong with your people overacting with this? SE its always right and they made the best game ever in the history of MMO'S

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This better be sarcasm

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Just transfer the money to your friend and they will get it on the shop, what's wrong with your people overacting with this? SE its always right and they made the best game ever in the history of MMO'S

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I would love to, where is the gift *insert person on my friend list here* Crysta option? You know that currency they totally have that you can buy stuff with that for some reason never got a gift x amount option.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

There are stuff in the game that the devs haven't moved to resolve which the fans have. Deny the fans that experience, after so much feedback has been done around it, and you'll just alienate those players. Yes, I'm referring mainly to Hrothgar and Viera, but there are plenty of other stuff, not just cosmetics. For example, do you have any idea how limited and poor the colourblind mode is? I needed specific shaders to run content because the one setting I run the game on does not allow me to see ANYTHING in E9 and P3. Trying to clear those as savages was just hell. And sure. Shaders are greenlit by the devs. But they're still a third party tool I needed to use to bridge the system, and some add-ons do quite a lot of QoL things that the game really would benefit from without giving you an upper hand in combat necessarily.

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Yeah, I don't see any reason to complain about texture or model changes. Especially things like hats on rabbits or lala deleters or UI skins which people are really passionate about. Purely aesthetic enhancements aren't something to take a hard line against.

"Quality of life" addons might cause problems, though. It's easy to handwave a tiny feature like "a ground circle that shows maximum melee range" or "a collection addon that tells you what you do or do not have." Taken individually, QoL addons can seem trivial, but people typically install a lot of them and put themselves at a substantial convenience advantage over anyone that isn't comfortable putting their login credentials into a third party application. The "duh" tier of these is stuff that needs to be baked into the game to begin with, and I'm concerned that "just use the third party app" will prove just as much temptation for the developer to halfass the UI as it did in XI.

FFXI had a similar issue with Windower. Windower makes some amazing changes to FFXI, but it spiraled out of control to the point where if you don't use Windower you're playing an inferior game. One of the great strengths of FFXIV is the ability to pick it up and put it down -- jumping through a Skyrim-esque (or FFXI) addon process to get things up and running again flies in the face of that. That's the friction angle, but it's also just straight up unfair to the console players for PC players to have even more of an advantage than they already have.

This isn't even touching the "don't ever put your SE account details into anything other than the patcher and our website."

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Originally Posted by vanaii

"Quality of life" addons might cause problems, though. It's easy to handwave a tiny feature like "a ground circle that shows maximum melee range" or "a collection addon that tells you what you do or do not have." Taken individually, QoL addons can seem trivial, but people typically install a lot of them and put themselves at a substantial convenience advantage over anyone that isn't comfortable putting their login credentials into a third party application. The "duh" tier of these is stuff that needs to be baked into the game to begin with, and I'm concerned that "just use the third party app" will prove just as much temptation for the developer to halfass the UI as it did in XI.

FFXI had a similar issue with Windower. Windower makes some amazing changes to FFXI, but it spiraled out of control to the point where if you don't use Windower you're playing an inferior game.

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Yeah, plus it does depend on the add-on. Cosmetic changes are usually one thing, since at the end of the day the game's still going to function as intended.

If it's something that just helps you organize some stuff, then that's "fine", but when you start adding in stuff like more hotbars, indicators for job resources or stuff that automatically tells you what to do at X mechanic... like, that's not an indication that you'll clear Ultimate all of a sudden, or even that you'll play your job any better. But it's still going to give you an upper edge, and that's problematic. So yeah, that I can understand.

I was referring to stuff that's actually minor though. One that didn't have that large of an effect on gameplay, which I'm sure even among the tools people use there are functionalities that are that minor. Again, I don't really see using shaders due to being colourblind as "suddenly I'll perform better than normal". I just viewed it as "It gave me somewhat of an equal footing, given everything looks totally purple/orange to me and I can't tell my arse from my head in here..." Our in-game options don't change the colours, they just change saturation and some colour levels. That helps in very few cases, it sometimes makes other cases worse. (The in-game options, I mean, not the shaders. The shaders do change some colours. It makes everything look so ugly, but hey, if it works, it works).

I don't know how much of a difference other add-ons do, but I don't really think much of whether a Hrothgar's wearing hats/has a hairstyle. But that's me. And from what I know seeing other people talk and such, I don't think we'll find a definitive 100% consensus so soon either.

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Originally Posted by vanaii

lala deleters

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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...36/014/f75.jpg

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

Many people in the English-speaking/international FFXIV community like using giveaways for community events, especially for the upcoming holiday season. However, it looks like Square Enix wants to extend the current content drought to cut out player-driven content as well. Good job, devs! I hope FFXVI lives up to expectations at least!

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Oh, it hsppens on JPN servers too. I've been to night clubs and rp venues there that do the same thing.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Just transfer the money to your friend and they will get it on the shop, what's wrong with your people overacting with this? SE its always right and they made the best game ever in the history of MMO'S

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<3 Awww nice bait! Too bad most people recognize trolls on sight these days. <3

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Originally Posted by Xeronia

I would love to, where is the gift *insert person on my friend list here* Crysta option? You know that currency they totally have that you can buy stuff with that for some reason never got a gift x amount option.

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Wasn't gifting crysta the whole reason they originally created it?

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

This better be sarcasm

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I'm going to assume so cause if not...yikes.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

In the past you got a code in your email that you could copy paste to a friend and they could enter it into mogstation.

The new system will send some items to the friend's mailbox directly - but you need to be a friend for a set time, and things like minions, emotes, and mounts are not allowed to be gifted any more. Some clothing seems to be. The level/story skip is for sure though.

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So basically, i cant do giveaways anymore, cool.
Square are so stupid.