Please don't harass people for ignoring/disliking the story

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Originally Posted by Xeronia

In general I do think EW is starting to fray at the seams. This is the most vocal I have seen the community in years of various aspects of the game, I will just take the easy two of story and PvE balancing/current job design. Yes there are complaint every expansion but this is the first time since HW I have seen such a pushback from multiple sides of the community at once. I don't think it will harm the population numbers massively in the short term but there are several examples we can point to that started their descent in a very similar way.

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Really? We remember stormblood very differently then.

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Originally Posted by Xeronia

In general I do think EW is starting to fray at the seams. This is the most vocal I have seen the community in years of various aspects of the game, I will just take the easy two of story and PvE balancing/current job design. Yes there are complaint every expansion but this is the first time since HW I have seen such a pushback from multiple sides of the community at once. I don't think it will harm the population numbers massively in the short term but there are several examples we can point to that started their descent in a very similar way.

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The most vocal in the forum community comprised of the few individuals whom lurk in here. I've already started to familiarize the same people whom say and share the same things.

Stormblood I remember a few job balance issues but never as vocal as the 2 minute burst window design has been. Stormblood's story only got more praise once 3.3 hit thanks to Yotsuyu's arc.

Shadowbringers stole my dots, butchered my fairy, and kidnapped my wife.

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Originally Posted by Bukachu

Story is alright, but its not the level of story that it makes people "cry".

only people getting emotional are the same ones watching cheap soap operas and get emotional over that.

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I didn't know Fist of the North Star was a soap opera.

I mean, I did watch pro wrestling when I was younger, that's pretty much a male soap opera.....

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

I haven't played all the FF games (just 1, and 7-12), and it is true some didn't have a story driven narrative.

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We only accept the best and most thought provoking storylines for the presitigious Final Fantasy franchise.

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FFV had flaws but it still had more major character deaths and overall growth of the bonds between party members than Endwalker. A simple story that didn't attempt to subvert expectations at every turn and was better off for it.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

FFV had flaws but it still had more major character deaths and overall growth of the bonds between party members than Endwalker. A simple story that didn't attempt to subvert expectations at every turn and was better off for it.

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Funny how you say this, yet FFV also didnt shy away to add in goofy humor within its plot and basic predictable rpg tropes. Which are things you "heavily criticize" with EW. Get out of here, dont drag my beloved FFV into your bs nonsense, you clearly have not played the game for you to be stating that FFV had more major character deaths (Galuf was the only person who died) and character growth than the ongoing narrative between multiple characters in FFXIV and its expansions.

I say this as somebody who loves FFV.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Funny how you say this, yet FFV also didnt shy away to add in goofy humor within its plot and basic predictable rpg tropes. Which are things you "heavily criticize" with EW. Get out of here, dont drag my beloved FFV into your bs nonsense, you clearly have not played the game for you to be stating that FFV had more major character deaths (Galuf was the only person who died) and character growth than the ongoing narrative between multiple characters in FFXIV and its expansions.

I say this as somebody who loves FFV.

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Yeah FFV is just a goofy game with a light hearted tone where the plot mostly exists to get you from place to place while the real focus is on the gameplay and the job system.
I was just using it as an example that an FF game doesn't always necessarily entail a deep storyline.