Bad decision by SE

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

I am obviously missing something here. "continuous inability"

please explain and clarify that. I dont recall ANY announcements that it was going to be released in 2020, so please feel free to provide details about their apparent continued inability to meet timelines and release dates aside from THIS TIME.

Thank you. (are you sure you arent confusing them with Blizzard?)

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It's a domino effect. In 2020, I think it was patch 5.4 that got delayed, iirc? Doesn't matter too much, but 6.0 was first questioned if it would be delayed as a result of the bug dropping, and the patch being pushed out several weeks. It was then later confirmed that 6.0 would be pushed, and we would get more details about it later; then as you are aware we got the Nov 19th original release date. These are all from the LLs, so you can go back and watch them if you have the time.

And I already pointed out SE's history with not meeting dates. A patch in 2020 was delayed, Ultimate got pushed into 6.0, and now EW in its entirety has been delayed. There's was also the FFVII remake, which got pushed over and over and over. I also believe FFXI for mobile was confirmed and then scrapped. While not Yoshi and his team, it is still SE.

I don't just pull stuff out my arse, dude.

I mean this with the utmost respect: You should not plan your life around a video game;

Don't get me wrong- I am very disappointed too. I get making big plans with friends for limited time events like, especially limited time things, fan fests or the like, but this is hardly a limited event.

This is comparable to delaying a game of D&D/tabletop games with your friends. Or going to the local baseball game two weeks later. The venues/friends are still going to be there.

I trust the devs wouldn't do this for no reason in the same way I'd trust a doctor or mechanic if they said they needed two more weeks. Up to now I've been satisfied with the product I've been using, and frankly, this doesn't even dent my satisfaction. I'll be perfectly happy to play two weeks later, or even 2 months when nobody even remembers there was a delay in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

It's a domino effect. In 2020, I think it was patch 5.4 that got delayed, iirc? Doesn't matter too much, but 6.0 was first questioned if it would be delayed as a result of the bug dropping, and the patch being pushed out several weeks. It was then later confirmed that 6.0 would be pushed, and we would get more details about it later; then as you are aware we got the Nov 19th original release date. These are all from the LLs, so you can go back and watch them if you have the time.

And I already pointed out SE's history with not meeting dates. A patch in 2020 was delayed, Ultimate got pushed into 6.0, and now EW in its entirety has been delayed. There's was also the FFVII remake, which got pushed over and over and over. I also believe FFXI for mobile was confirmed and then scrapped. While not Yoshi and his team, it is still SE.

I don't just pull stuff out my arse, dude.

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You cite one time, that was during a world wide pandemic that was before any date was set... That is one hell of a stretch

Amazing how a two week delay to make sure everything is stable and sound is the end of the world, or the last straw for alot of these people.

You guys new to MMO's or something? I don't know about you folks, but I would rather not have another repeat of Raubahn EX, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

It's a domino effect. In 2020, I think it was patch 5.4 that got delayed, iirc? Doesn't matter too much, but 6.0 was first questioned if it would be delayed as a result of the bug dropping, and the patch being pushed out several weeks. It was then later confirmed that 6.0 would be pushed, and we would get more details about it later; then as you are aware we got the Nov 19th original release date. These are all from the LLs, so you can go back and watch them if you have the time.

And I already pointed out SE's history with not meeting dates. A patch in 2020 was delayed, Ultimate got pushed into 6.0, and now EW in its entirety has been delayed. There's was also the FFVII remake, which got pushed over and over and over. I also believe FFXI for mobile was confirmed and then scrapped. While not Yoshi and his team, it is still SE.

I don't just pull stuff out my arse, dude.

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really.. well..

5.3 was pushed from June 2020 to August due to the pandemic, and the fact that the QA team could not effectively work from home so they had to renovate the office to accomodate pandemic restrictions. if 5.3 was delayed, it stands to reason, every patch after that would likely be a bit later. however the initial delay is for most I think, justifiable because of a, you know, world wide pandemic. I do understand that for you that is unforgivable delay.

I'll be honest, I dont care about any other game in the franchise, so their delays, sure, you can bring into it, but are meaningless to me in terms of FFxiv.

nice gender assumption by the way ^^ have a wonderful evening neighbour

It was the correct move. How pissed would you be if there servers had to go offline for 3 or 4 days because of issues

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Originally Posted by Anya_Synia

This is the thing, I get the disappointment, heck everyone is disappointed. The thing is though the clear communication between the team and the customer. I have never known such honesty from anyone else that delays a game. The most important thing is trust and the team are doing a damn good job at maintaining that by explaining why it is delayed. Everyone is entitled to be disappointed sure, but if people are gonna start ranting and raging about it that is not constructive. What is constructive is solutions.

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It's also the problem I have. It's okay to be disappointed, everybody is. It's okay not to be happy because it's too late to change PTO or vacation time for the new release date. It's okay not to like the fact it had to be done. It's not okay to rage about it, especially when Yoshi-P crying at the beginning of the Live Letter shows he's just as upset he had to do it as anybody else. Him crying alone proves how much it hurt him to have to do it, how much he tried to avoid having to do it.

If he said it with a straight face, I could understand the frustration. But he is just as disappointed, just as irritated, just as sad as the rest of us that it's having to be delayed. Do not take anything out on him when it's clear to anybody who saw him break down in tears that he did not want to do it any more than us, but didn't want the game released just to have another Raubahn EX plague the game's servers for a few days, or for the game to be literally unplayable because of an error in the code preventing people from loading into maps.

In my opinion the only bad decision was people taking hard earned PTO for a MMORPG expansion, It's pretty common knowledge at this point how volatile expansion launches can be especially when they are released before they are ready, you knew the risk going months in advance that there was a possibility that this would happen and you took it. It's fine to be upset, but it's far from being a bad decision. Yoshi P can take all the time he needs to release the game so it's in a state that is satisfactory for him, this isn't just a normal, run of the mill expansion launch. It's literally going to change and shape the course of the future of the game and he obviously wants it to be as perfect as he can get.

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Originally Posted by TalonBlades

I am writing this today, as SE made a very poor judgment, which effects many of us across the globe, and to this, will cause issues for far too many of us.

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You know what is "effects" many of us right now?

A pandemic. A global pandemic.

Imagine having a delay from a hospital because you're trying to get an organ afflicted by Stage 1 Cancer only for them to literally cancel your surgery 3 days before it happens. Because that's a thing that is happening in my actual real life situation right now. And the best part? You don't know if it's stage 1a or 1b cancer until after the surgery - and if it's 1b then you have to deal with targeted radiology to eradicate the cancer cells that escaped said organ.

Because of a f**king pandemic. Delays happen. Worse scenarios to others than a god damned video game.

But hey, I'm sooo sorry about your situation. That's incredibly hard.

And by the way? This isn't one of the "worst decisions SE has made" - delaying a game to ensure QoL is the best decision, you entitled whiny arrogant mass. Remember Rabaun EX?

Go eat a Snickers bar or something and re-evaluate your damn priorities.

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Originally Posted by HeyMcFly

I have good news- the game isn't going away & you can actually play it when you have time
I'd rather have a good experience & am happy with the decision to delay

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I love you. Thank you for being the most logical here.

It's fine for Square Enix to extend the release date by two weeks, but as multiple people have posted, people are forced due to the hectic raid cycle to skip cutscenes, which renders all that hard work futile. FFXIV has changed a lot in the past year, and people want to prep for endgame as soon as possible to be world first or to get higher numbers on FFLogs. None of us are in control of that, but it's just unfortunate to see the game change so much and people skipping what is likely to be the best story in all of FFXIV. That means less people we can discuss lore with and share those moments with.