This is why this game should'nt get a parse

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Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow

Some People don't know that warrior tanks in DPS staces able to stay in position let them push out higher numbers then a DPS running out of random AOE

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The fight in question is O2S where everything except the safe spot for Maniacal Probe is scripted. There are no random AOE for DPS to dodge, it's easy to pre-position yourself in this fight.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

To which I say, why wasn't this in a new Hall of the Novice? I've noticed an increasing trend with SB dungeons. They keep adding gimmicks to one of the bosses, which get tedious very quickly, especially if you play jobs with a resource you have to maintain and said gimmick messes it up.

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my guess is because HoN isn't meant to be something maintained. you're meant to be introduced to and grow accustomed to more "advanced" mechanics organically instead of in a formal training ground. also HoN is some easily missed junk on the side of the road in a zone people don't really linger in. people barely remember it exists. the novice network has a bigger footprint.

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Originally Posted by Sebazy

And I repeat my question, why are you concerned if that's all you have there?

This isn't me 'having a go' or such, I'm pretty much perma AFK these days so makes no odds to me personally, it's just an interesting topic.

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in I can inject myself into this:

Privacy. that's the biggest reason. being "public" is not a default status I have turned on. I do not upload my logs, as far as I can tell. I do not present padded parses, or poor parses. I do not present any. and I don't want you having access to my performance stats without my consent. someone else consenting to release data on me to a public database is something I dislike thoroughly. it isn't about hiding anything, as I don't hide that my dpsing background is limited, I haven't run savage this tier, and I usually pull 2800-4000. I don't mind telling you these things on my own. I just don't want my privacy to wither for the sake of your convenience.
I have no problem with you witnessing my performance while in the run and keeping a local copy of in on your PC, though. you were there to witness the run and the tool itself is useful for sussing out problems on the fly

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Originally Posted by spagthetapdancer

in I can inject myself into this:

Privacy. that's the biggest reason. being "public" is not a default status I have turned on. I do not upload my logs, as far as I can tell. I do not present padded parses, or poor parses. I do not present any. and I don't want you having access to my performance stats without my consent. someone else consenting to release data on me to a public database is something I dislike thoroughly. it isn't about hiding anything, as I don't hide that my dpsing background is limited, I haven't run savage this tier, and I usually pull 2800-4000. I don't mind telling you these things on my own. I just don't want my privacy to wither for the sake of your convenience.
I have no problem with you witnessing my performance while in the run and keeping a local copy of in on your PC, though. you were there to witness the run and the tool itself is useful for sussing out problems on the fly

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Does this apply to people uploading screenshots of you ingame? What about a video of a fight where you are involved in? Or if you join a group with a streamer?

Privacy concerns are all well and good for certain things, but this isn't one of them. None of your real life information is included. If you want to opt out, verify your character on the website and change the settings. Rather than demanding no-one else can view statistics on a website.

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Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon

Does this apply to people uploading screenshots of you ingame? What about a video of a fight where you are involved in? Or if you join a group with a streamer?

Privacy concerns are all well and good for certain things, but this isn't one of them. None of your real life information is included. If you want to opt out, verify your character on the website and change the settings. Rather than demanding no-one else can view statistics on a website.

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Those should all be done with the consent of those involved, or names need to be hidden.

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Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon

Does this apply to people uploading screenshots of you ingame? What about a video of a fight where you are involved in? Or if you join a group with a streamer?
Privacy concerns are all well and good for certain things, but this isn't one of them. None of your real life information is included. If you want to opt out, verify your character on the website and change the settings. Rather than demanding no-one else can view statistics on a website.

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good question, and the sort that is best addressed per example.
Screenshots of me in-game: I don't mind this because the only information being portrayed is my appearance. unless someone goes through the absurd amount of work necessary to assemble a stop-go animation style slide show, it does not pose a risk to my privacy to have my mere appearance given. I am willing to allow anyone that happens to be in my vicinity to screenshot me without my notice.
Video of a fight I'm involved in: hmm....this is a toughie. I'd really prefer they didn't unless I was told about it.
Stream Runs: I join groups with streamers in other games all the time, volunteering to do so. I surf dark souls 3 streams for streamers to co-op with. I consider such a thing consentual as long as everyone knows ahead of time. Hell, to stream regularly is something I'd like to do someday myself.

Also, can I really log into FFLogs and set it so that data on me is excluded from their listings? if so, good on them and that'd ease my concerns a good deal.

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Originally Posted by spagthetapdancer

Also, can I really log into FFLogs and set it so that data on me is excluded from their listings? if so, good on them and that'd ease my concerns a good deal.

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They have a system where you can claim you character and you can set your logs to hidden, though I am strongly of the opinion it should be default hidden have to be set to visible.

https://www.fflogs.com/help/hidingcharacters/

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Originally Posted by jameseoakes

They have a system where you can claim you character and you can set your logs to hidden,

https://www.fflogs.com/help/hidingcharacters/

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excellent. I prefer opt in to opt out but I guess this will have to do ^_^.

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Originally Posted by spagthetapdancer

in I can inject myself into this:

Privacy. that's the biggest reason.

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That's a fair response aye <3

I guess at the end of the day, it's very much a personal choice, some won't be comfortable with even their character's 'data' being in the public domain whilst others (I fall into this camp I guess!) scratch their heads wondering what all the fuss is about. ;)

I feel I should participate in this thread (I'm the Warrior, btw) as this thread was brought to my attention by my FC.
Where did I kick you for doing poor DPS? We even killed it once, even though your performance is questionable at best, and nobody kicked you. I got 3 static friends that wanted to join for some late night fun. I have never kicked a person for low performance, if anyone deserved a kick in that group its the Paladin who killed all the DPS.

I haven't read any rules that forbid me to play with my friends, if I offended you then its not my intent. With that said however....

If you feel to bring up the DPS being the reason you got kicked, perhaps that is something you should improve on, rather than sit at your throughput level and point fingers how others are rude, mean and derogatory towards you on the internet. I personally prefer the option to find a guide on someone good, and learn from their knowledge they freely share with the community.