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Originally Posted by Renshi

I would wait for the Jobs to come before talking about balancement =)
Also remember that we miss come classes, like Musketeer, Arcanist and something either a Pet Class, a Scouter or something else.
For now, I'd say they're pretty balanced. It just saddens me that the attribute Evasion isn't that effective. My Pugilist friend had multiple Materia of Evasion+. and tanking Ifrit and the Great Buffalo we noticed he took all the hits. All The Hits!

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Yea, it just seems to be the case with Ifrit that you barely ever, if at all, evade anything of his; even with Featherfoot. I've evaded lots versus Lv50+ mobs and moogles though even without Featherfoot with my evasion gear.

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Originally Posted by Yonnji

Unfortunately for you, some ARCs out there are planning to just keep shooting arrows, instead of turning selves into an MP/HP bitch for your party. Shocking, ain't it?

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Welcome to FFXIV, this is not FFXI.

We don't know how Bard even works yet. For all you know, you're going to hit one button to pop a 2 minute duration song and then go right back to your damage dealing rotation the way you've been doing.

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Originally Posted by Yonnji

Unfortunately for you, some ARCs out there are planning to just keep shooting arrows, instead of turning selves into an MP/HP bitch for your party. Shocking, ain't it?

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So a class with sub-par DPS compared to other classes - let alone their empowered Jobs - as opposed to a highly desirable buffing Job with unique buffs unavailable through other means that can also put out equal or higher DPS than it's class counterpart?

Good luck getting into any Full Party of Jobs with that attitude. ARC isn't getting a DPS focused Job. If you leveled ARC to DPS only, you've been informed well in advance that the first Job being released for it is not a DPS-centric one. Perhaps, and this is likely, they will implement a Sniper/Ranger Job accessible by ARC in the future, but be forewarned that this is not a situation one can best by perseverance.

You simply will not be welcome in any competitive Full Party tackling endgame content after 1.21 on ARC. Plain and simple.

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You simply will not be welcome in any competitive Full Party tackling endgame content after 1.21 on ARC. Plain and simple.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JORJg8XZiJU

Sums it up pretty nicely.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Perhaps, and this is likely, they will implement a Sniper/Ranger Job accessible by ARC in the future, but be forewarned that this is not a situation one can best by perseverance.

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It is the situation one can vote with his wallet. If SE can't give me a dedicated ranged DD job, I can always bid them adieu. And I won't be alone.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

You simply will not be welcome in any competitive Full Party tackling endgame content after 1.21 on ARC. Plain and simple.

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What endgame? Besides, since the last update ARC are doing quite nicely in Ifrit fight. And are actively sought after for Moogle King. You should try to keep up with the latest news.

ARC could already do well enough in Ifrit before 1.20, they are sought cause they are the easiest to play, that is all, they have no advantage to other classes(DPS-wise).

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Originally Posted by Yonnji

It is the situation one can vote with his wallet. If SE can't give me a dedicated ranged DD job, I can always bid them adieu. And I won't be alone.

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That is your prerogative.

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What endgame? Besides, since the last update ARC are doing quite nicely in Ifrit fight. And are actively sought after for Moogle King. You should try to keep up with the latest news.

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I do keep up with the latest news. I am the latest news lol. Doing the latest content is my primary business in this game and has been for a while. You'd know that if you kept up with my posts in this very thread even.

They are sought out due to their ease of play and safety in the Moogle fight. This effects PUGs more than LS parties, due to PUGs consisting of people that probably haven't played with each other before and thus shouting only for ARCs to make the party safe rather than sorry.

That is besides the point however. With the release of jobs, there will be absolutely no reason to take an ARC over a BRD. This is my point.

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Originally Posted by ShadowCadja

ARC could already do well enough in Ifrit before 1.20, they are sought cause they are the easiest to play, that is all, they have no advantage to other classes(DPS-wise).

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Thank you for disproving his argument for me. As you said it yourself, the desirability of an ARC in the "endgame" hinges not just on the superior damage alone. Bravo!

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Originally Posted by Yonnji

Thank you for disproving his argument for me. As you said it yourself, the desirability of an ARC in the "endgame" hinges not just on the superior damage alone. Bravo!

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Really? I've been preaching that for pages. So he disproves me by agreeing with me?

What I'm telling you is ARC will put out at least the same DPS as well as maintain it's ease of play and safety while gaining vital party buffs by switching to BRD.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

That is besides the point however. With the release of jobs, there will be absolutely no reason to take an ARC over a BRD. This is my point.[/COLOR]

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At this piont it is still no more then your personal, yet unproven conjecture, Mr. the latest news. Either way, it is irrelevant.

I can play the game the way I want. Or I can take my toys and go elsewhere. But I can never play the game the way you want me to play. Not gonna happen.

I'm sure there will be plenty of people willing to play your MP/TP bitch. I'm also sure there will be a few who'd rather quit, if a true ranged DD job/class is not forthcoming.