A12 savage World first 3 days after patch

It's pretty simple.
The current raid design annoys (maybe) 10% of the 5% of the player base who cleared the former raids.
While doubling or trippling the overall clears at least.

It's much better to enable 10.000 people raiding 4h a week and clear all in 3 month, instead of focussing on not losing those 100 who clear it in 2 weeks.
Even if they need 6 or 8 weeks... that's 100 ppl subbing a bit longer and 10.000 who cannot attemp it at all again, because of time/skill/static needed.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

It would just be artificial longevity.
It's like if they forced ilvl 260 to even enter A11. Would everyone suddenly be proud that Creator would only be cleared after several weeks ?

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Of course it would be artificial longevity, but aren't DPS intensive fights artificial longevity by definition?

The problem here is that you need to find the right balance for this artificial longevity. It can't be too much like in Gordias, but now it feels that there is none of it.
And tackling a fight, while knowing that you can have 2, 3, even 10+ deaths in the fight (like what happened in the A10S clear of the original poster of this topic) and still manage to beat it without reaching the enrage completely removes the point of doing mechanics correctly.
A mechanic is too hard to execute? Who cares, just die to it and get revived. It's sac strats all over again, but in ALL the fights this time.

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Originally Posted by Neophyte

It's much better to enable 10.000 people doing 4h a week and clear all in 3 month, instead of focussing on not losing those 100 who clear it in 2 weeks.

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The target of the developers was that world first should need around 5 days and "people that meet 2 times a week" shall need around 2 month.

Now the world first was in 2 instead of 5 days. We will see, how different it will be for "people that meet 2 times a week".

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

Now the world first was in 2 instead of 5 days. We will see, how different it will be for "people that meet 2 times a week".

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Pff, Yoshi just forgot that there is also CD reset now, so people need 30-50% less time for practice runs. :D ;)

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Originally Posted by Wegente

Of course it would be artificial longevity, but aren't DPS intensive fights artificial longevity by definition?

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Well...no. DPS intensive fights are demanding, but if you can clear them with the gear available right from the start, it just mean you need to improve your rotation. It's not a very good difficulty, but it's not fake. Releasing a content unclearable even at the best of skill is fake.

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Originally Posted by Wegente

The problem here is that you need to find the right balance for this artificial longevity. It can't be too much like in Gordias, but now it feels that there is none of it.

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For me, the right balance is having something difficult, but that you can still clear in a fresh runs by reacting properly. Unfair mechanics that will kill you before you even know what they do are fake difficulty, and only forces you to read a guide before raiding.

If you feel Creator is actually "that" easy, then go blind and discover the mechanbics by yourself. It will makes it more fun :)

Interesting...
Just something you may havnt noticed:

If you have time to train a content over and over again 16h a day, then just imagine what happens if you repeat saying in game forums "it is too easy" over and over again for 16h a day? Doesnt it look like the "overall" playerbase seems to have it too easy or is it just an illusion because you cant hear the others?!

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

If you have time to train a content over and over again 16h a day, then just imagine what happens if you repeat saying in game forums "it is too easy" over and over again for 16h a day? Doesnt it look like the "overall" playerbase seems to have it too easy or is it just an illusion because you cant hear the others?!

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This is why we have daily post limits :p

I don't think raids are harder at all. (None of them) the problem here is not the difficulty the problem in here is people's time to practice. An average static practices between 2/3 hours every 3 days a week. In 2 hours you won't clear the whole thing. A DAY full on practice can get you a clear at least 2 turns. 3 full days of practice can get you the whole thing.

The problem in my view is not the difficulty of the game is the limited time people got to practice .

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Originally Posted by Ibi

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It would be quite interesting to see what the FFXIV team would do if they had the resources/manpower to produce more content within a 3-5 month period. Not sure if it is the amount of money they make off FFXIV or SE simply not providing the resources, but I hope that they are properly funding the game that got them back in a healthy state in their company.

Really all this complaining is going to do is become detrimental to the game itself. People cried for harder raids, and they got them, which in turn nearly destroyed the raiding community. Population of servers dwindled while the bigger ones became over crowded. You call this the GIT GUD days, I call it the days this game nearly fell apart for the second time. Sure people can spend a month clearing this content. However, this gives them the opportunity to do more with the game. Instead of being obsessed with trying to clear a raid and clearing it 5 months into the raid cycle going at it for 3 to 5 days a week 2 hours a day. That's unhealthy. Nobody lives your life. Everyone has their own schedules, their own goals, and their own playstyles. And really they should. Every bit of this game is not intended for specific people, it's intended for everyone even based on their schedules. So don't bring the community down with you because you're unhappy that's unfair.