So its 0-2 in the male female glamour department, yay?

Honestly, a lot of the outfits seem gender biased. Female characters look A LOT better than male characters. Take the outfit from this All Saints Wake event. It looks terrible on guys IMO, but it looks tailor made for females. I get that there are a lot of female characters out there, but we guys get the short end of the straw on a lot of the outfit appearances.....

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Originally Posted by Gamer3427

Honestly, a lot of the outfits seem gender biased. Female characters look A LOT better than male characters. Take the outfit from this All Saints Wake event. It looks terrible on guys IMO, but it looks tailor made for females. I get that there are a lot of female characters out there, but we guys get the short end of the straw on a lot of the outfit appearances.....

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Is it actually unique? I thought it was the swimming one-piece reskin with some extra bell's and whistles thrown on it. I might be wrong though.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Is it actually unique? I thought it was the swimming one-piece reskin with some extra bell's and whistles thrown on it. I might be wrong though.

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I have no idea. I just know that it looks terrible on guys, but it looks good on girls.....

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

Like you? the irony is strong in this one, also, we're still living in that age where troll=someone who disagrees with you.

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Says the person who tells other people with conflicting opinions to their own that they should just stop having an opinion and learn to take a point so they can be "happier".

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

Are you really that naive? Its not a matter of dodging the issue, there is no issue, its a matter of you being in denial, they are catering to what the playerbase mostly consists of, females (characters, since you have trouble getting points) Once you accept that, you might be a little happier.

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Also a person who basically says that people with an opinion different than them are just crying waaah like babies just because they have an opinion.

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

i don't cry about trival things that do not go my way, so no, and people are already here crying about it. which is why this topic as well as a few others exist to begin with. "waaaah i want more male gear, i want female gear on males this is unfair!" etc.

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Uh huh...you definitely respect other peoples opinions..../sarcasm


As for topic I am a woman so I mean I like all the glamours we get but I can see it is lopsided and even with statistics....I mean we have two genders in the game. It should just automatically be more equal in my opinion. So they should stop catering to only one side of the coin.

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Originally Posted by Gamer3427

I have no idea. I just know that it looks terrible on guys, but it looks good on girls.....

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Welcome to RL fashion lol. A lot of the stuff that does happen to look good on guys, often looks good on girls too (even if in some cases, it means a much more adulterated and risque look for a woman compared to a man). It's definitely not a one-way street, unlike the opposite situation. There are many things a girl can wear that would just look odd on a guy for practical, if not obvious visual reasons. Tops that support breasts, for example, are first seen as comedic when worn by a man by almost everyone, particularly due to the fact that those are specifically designed for women for actual functionality.

That aside though, a lot of the time, certain gear that looks bad just needs something to properly compliment it to make it look good. This often means moving it away from the set. When one set is designed with a specific sex in mind, it definitely brings up a matter of what your goal is for your character. Is the new seasonal gear too... effeminate? Which btw is just a slight reskins of existing gear. Then clearly, it's just something you don't want for your character. I mean, this is exactly what everyone should expect to happen when it comes to gear becoming unisex. They've already done the witch look last year and ghosts before that. They chose the witch approach again this year, so it's kinda hard to move away from the design path that ended up with what we have, all things considered lol. Would have been nice to get something better than a reskin, but hey we got a freakin mount... and pet.

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Originally Posted by Gamer3427

I have no idea. I just know that it looks terrible on guys, but it looks good on girls.....

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It is basically a reskin of already existing ingame pieces. Not from a single set but all already exist in different sets just with small differences.

You know I realised why this issue hasn't registered to me as unfair as it logically is. Its cause female characters either seem to have gender specific glamours that are either bikinis or the type of thing you would dress up a porceline doll in while the unisex sets seem like male sets modified slightly for women. This tends to have lead me to devalue them.

I think if we are to be fair males should have more male specific sets though it means over all females will get less (We cant realistically expect them to suddenly find the resources to produce more sets out of no where). On the flipside I would kill for some female sets that looked practical and good looking sets.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

On the flipside I would kill for some female sets that looked practical and good looking sets.

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i know this is OT but I actually like the male version of the Scylla robes more than the female version.

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Originally Posted by AriaEnia

But honestly, I can see a woman wearing snow outfit, the design is proper and accepted for a woman to wear. And it's all come back to acceptance again

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I wonder if this "server memory" again which prevents to do so.

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If the server memory cannot handle male characters wearing certain hats (especially hats as slight as the bunny ears) then we're all in serious trouble when it comes to future gear rewards.

I don't buy the acceptance thing since it's so easy to make really kinky outfits for a male character already. The proud male Roegadyn population on my server pioneers new out-of-this-world combos on a regular basis, and my FC mates seem far more worried about my BLM pants than they were when Hildi wore that dress: http://i.imgur.com/sU5xwG1.png

I think it's just obliviousness. They have no idea how unfairly they're treating half of their players.

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Originally Posted by SchalaZeal

From there:
http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/gateway_genderbend.html

I think the Daedalus guy said the same about his own study, though it was a small difference on a huge amount of people. If people play 19 hours a week for male and 24 hours a week for female, what does my 60 hours a week tell you?

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The page you linked just stated "We know that 85% of MMORPG players are male" without a clear reference, and the only study linked from that page (the Daedalus EQT study, I believe?) is from 2001 -- and it took me a while to find the date of it. The Daedalus page has also been in hibernation since early 2009 ^^; (March 2009 being the date of the first comment on the "Hibernation" blog entry.)

Also, since the EQT study was regarding Everquest only, I'm not surprised it said the same ^_~
I'd say it should compare to my female flatmate, who spends about the same amount or more =D I don't always keep track, since I'm taking a semi-break right now due to health issues, and thus only spend about 10 hours a week online (or thereabouts) ^^;
(She does her daily roulettes (all of them, including hest) on three different alts x_x Plus capping red gathering scrips every week. I don't know if I could manage that for longer than a day or two.)

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Originally Posted by Eloah

So I saw some things from the live letter. Here is a link that shows some of what was shown,

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/10/25...-of-verminion/

Anyway, when patch 3.1 drop female characters will get not 1 but 2 gender specific glamours. They will get the mogstation exclusive Minfilia outfit, and they get another bunny outfit. And in all this time nothing has been given to guys, I feel so special, lol?

What are everyone's thoughts on this? More glamours are always nice, but why are the guys neglected so much.

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Thank you for mentioning this, I wasn't aware of the Exclusive Minfilia outfit. Exclusive outfits in the cash shop was kinda where i drew the line on staying subscribed. So thank you for this thread, glad I caught it before I paid for next month.