Pay for your inventory.

Without reading everything posted here, i was disappointed to read they were not giving you at least 1 additional retainer for free because I feel like we are really starting to feel the squeeze of not having inventory space we desire and they are adding three jobs and ten levels worth of new items materials and stuff.

That said it's possible the problem will be alleviated somewhat by the fact that you can now desynth and trade in basically all the 2.xx gear and that they expanded what you can store in the armory chests, I know for me that frees up basically 3/4th of one of my retainers right away.

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

You dislike that I called her out on her obvious assumptions and use of slipper slope fallacy, but not her snarky "Good for you, you can splurge on this" remark? You'll have to forgive me if I find double standard in that. Your link to a straw-man example is moot as my replies were not straw-man in nature.

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I really don't need your approval to state my opinion, nor your consensus.

It is ridiculous to put so many new items into the game and not give us additional inventory space. I might pay a one time fee for additional space, but not a subscription. If I max out during the expansion I won't pay for another retainer, I'll cancel my subscription entirely. That's a promise.

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Originally Posted by Atlaworks

I really don't need your approval to state my opinion, nor your consensus.

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And yet I can still find it a double standard regardless.

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That said it's possible the problem will be alleviated somewhat by the fact that you can now desynth and trade in basically all the 2.xx gear and that they expanded what you can store in the armory chests, I know for me that frees up basically 3/4th of one of my retainers right away.

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It also helps that we can farm lower gears that we may of saved for new classes/jobs as we get higher with our mains with less than a full party and no ilvl limit. :)

Meaning all that can be tossed out if we're willing to deal with slight RNG but fast farmings.

TLDR

SE wants more money, and you don't want to pay.
impact on game = 0

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You dislike that I called her out on her obvious assumptions and use of slipper slope fallacy, but not her snarky "Good for you, you can splurge on this" remark? You'll have to forgive me if I find double standard in that. Your link to a straw-man example is moot as my replies were not straw-man in nature.

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Until you can prove that we have not had those cash shop updates that I mentioned, and they are not a trend of an increasingly expanding cash shop, expanding into functionality increasingly over cosmetic items even, I don't think you're making a good case for yourself by continuing to accuse me of using the slippery slope fallacy.

Also, it looked pretty strawman to me...

You'd have to be pretty shallow to think that this isn't a cash grab, tossing in storage and gating it behind an increased sub fee as the only way to get increased storage when we already have storage issues and an expansion is going to cram more items into the game. If that's not a slip towards a slope after prior cash shop updates, I don't know what is. It's a legitimate trend.

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Until you can prove that we have not had those cash shop updates that I mentioned, and they are not a trend of an increasingly expanding cash shop, expanding into functionality increasingly over cosmetic items even, I don't think you're making a good case for yourself by continuing to accuse me of using the slippery slope fallacy.

Also, it looked pretty strawman to me...

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Other than the increase in retainers which translates to more ventures going out, where is the expanding functionality coming from?

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Other than the increase in retainers which translates to more ventures going out, where is the expanding functionality coming from?

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(Much needed) Storage.
Greatly increased sales capacity (which translates into market domination).

Whoever pays SE gets to not have their inventory crammed by the onslaught of expansion items. There's no alternative to retainer subscription as increased storage, players will have to inconvenience themselves and make do with the already quite pitiful storage.

And the ability to pay SE more and get market domination abilities over those who don't is pretty self-explanatory. On Balmung we already have someone who floods the market with certain items (like grade 1 glamour prisms). Now they can do that even more.

Real world wealth inequality being brought into the game is a bad idea, especially in a sub game. That is why I do not like these increasing cash shop updates.

This game has more inventory space than any other MMO already. Just saying.


It will never be enough space for those who like to collect/horde.

Horders gonna Horde.