Land Needs Are Unmet on Balmung

Just ran up against this recently.

I joined some friends on Balmung, which was billed as a RP-server (by them). Population/age/costs weren't mentioned, probably because they weren't experienced enough to know about them. We've "heard" about all these features that are locked behind housing (stables, etc.) and that future ones will also require property (airship crafting?).

All the land is taken, and just the cost for "releasing" a property to sell (which is sketchy to begin with) is many many times the total gil accrued by all of us over the lifetimes of our characters. That's to say nothing of the cost of the property after that, or the gil we actually have.

It makes me wonder if that's why I get spammed by RMT traders every 5-10 minutes. It seems like this is something that could literally take our FC years to buy. New features in Heavensward that require property are only available to some tiny fraction of the server? It seems like a broken system.

It is very much a broken system, although on a server like Balmung, I would expect land to be quite difficult to obtain even if there was some mechanism of evicting inactive players.

You will probably have to wait until 3.1 to experience that much of the content billed for 3.0, as rumors claim that SE is concerned that introducing new housing wards along with all of the new areas would lead to significant server problems.

You can rightly blame the vocal minority of land-owners for complaining cacophonously when SE revealed their plans for inactivite lot purges, as they believed themselves entitled to take away content from paying, active subscriptions while retaining the luxury of unsubscribing and keeping all of the houses they purchased. The sense of entitlement there is breath-taking.

Also blame SE for backing down on their plan to evict inactive subscriptions from their homes. The customer isn't right if they're not paying.

I was just wondering if there is a list of servers where they have ANY plots left. =)

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Originally Posted by Kekeri

All the land is taken, and just the cost for "releasing" a property to sell (which is sketchy to begin with) is many many times the total gil accrued by all of us over the lifetimes of our characters. That's to say nothing of the cost of the property after that, or the gil we actually have.

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That's really not a pertinent point to argue about the cost of housing.. It's the availability that's the issue at hand.. Cost is perfectly fine as is. If it were any lower, you'd just experience even more difficulty in obtaining one. Player vs. Player relinquish fee may seem high but if you consider mansions costing 50m it's really not such a huge amount of gil.. and if more land were available, the relinquish fees would naturally drop to a more reasonable amount as well.

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Originally Posted by Reneo

I was just wondering if there is a list of servers where they have ANY plots left. =)

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Zalera, Zodiark, Jenova, basically, go to the NA server community forums and check out the servers listed at the bottom.

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Originally Posted by Yeldir

You can rightly blame the vocal minority of land-owners for complaining cacophonously when SE revealed their plans for inactivite lot purges, as they believed themselves entitled to take away content from paying, active subscriptions while retaining the luxury of unsubscribing and keeping all of the houses they purchased. The sense of entitlement there is breath-taking.

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I think the entitlement is yours.


I have a house. But I wouldnt care that much about losing it, since I could just get another one. (even without receiving a refund on the first)
However I imagine it's not that simple for someone that saved up a long time, or someone that is on a server with no plots available.

You would take from others to satisfy your own needs. Rather then doing that, ask for a solution that helps everyone, perhaps?



Altho as a sidenote, I'd like to see you save up in 3 months of hard work(or even much longer), to see your house lost in a single month of doing nothing.

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Originally Posted by Kekeri

Just ran up against this recently.

I joined some friends on Balmung, which was billed as a RP-server (by them). Population/age/costs weren't mentioned, probably because they weren't experienced enough to know about them.

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I take it then that you didnt read what the descriptions said during the world selection part of the character creation?

Thanks. I don't mind transfering servers, I just wish I could take my FC over thete. I didn't really know there was so much of an issue with housing space since I just returned from the game.

Thanks. I don't mind transfering servers, I just wish I could take my FC over thete. I didn't really know there was so much of an issue with housing space since I just returned from the game.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

You would take from others to satisfy your own needs. Rather then doing that, ask for a solution that helps everyone, perhaps?

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I'm game. Have you got a solution? The caveat is that it can't be "add more wards", because SE has made it quite clear they cannot afford to add an endless number of non-instanced wards, as expending financial and personnel resources to satisfy the game experience of non-paying, non-customers is the bullet train to forcibly-replaced-by-the-board-of-directors town.

Are we going to get more wards? Yes. Is it going to be in 3.0? Probably not. Is that going to bar people from airships? Plausibly. Will the wards fill up with empty houses owned by inactive accounts again, leaving us right back where we started? Definitely. So. Think outside the more wards box.

So what has the community come up with solutions for this? I've seen most threads that state to kick out most of the tenants that are inactive but I don't think that would solve anything at all.

Instant houses similar to the inm might work. Not really sure if anyone has suggested that. If someone did, what would be the issue for instant housing? I mean the technicalities for it. Just curious.

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Originally Posted by Reneo

So what has the community come up with solutions for this?

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- Make more wards! (impossible, servers can't handle that)
- Make everything instanced! (means redoing whole housing system, which is, frankly, a lot of work for already busy team)
- Kick out inactives! (sounds good until first vacation, army trip or other real life thing)
- Make them pay rent (devs already said they aint doing it)
- Let them sell their houses (defeats gil sink purpose and makes fighting RMT harder)

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Originally Posted by Reneo

Instant houses similar to the inm might work.

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It was suggested before, and in my opinion it is the best solution.

Just make a map with a nice big inn and let players have instanced rooms inside. Maybe, even, instanced mini-gardens and stables.
Actually, you don't even need to make a map, there are already inns in all cities.