Very conflicted about the cash shop...

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Originally Posted by Fyce

What tells you that they would have taken the time and ressources to make the Sleipnir mount and other vanity stuff if it was not for the Cash Shop?

You're assuming that some stuff will be created, and then they will ask themselves the question about putting it in the cash shop. You're completly ignoring the possibility of the question being asked the other way around: "We will have a Cash Shop. What should we create to fill it?"...


... But yeah, let's all jump into the "Ewwww! what a bunch of greedy as***les! They're cutting off content from us!" bandwagon. It's the mainstream reaction to have nowadays.

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Holy uninformed, Batman!
The Odin mount has been in the game since before 2.0 even launched, how do we know?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...52720a1d07d970
This image was taken from the Blog Post they made when they were developing Odin, because of how Odin appears as the character that previously defeated it, a scalable mount model was needed and already made and added in game. No extra development time was used in making it.
Now, we have the Urth's Fount battle confirmed to be released some time before the expansion. During the development process of Urth's Fount, when deciding drops and what not, the discussion of whether or not to make the mount a drop similar to the Extreme mounts will have happened, this is a fact, because it's how development works.

It's absurd that you people are defending such business practices that remove content from the majority of players especially while so uninformed.

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Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

It's absurd that you people are defending such business practices that remove content from the majority of players especially while so uninformed.

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Yeah, now what am I going to do with all the time I don't have to spend farming an encounter to never see the mount drop?!

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Originally Posted by Fyce

What tells you that they would have taken the time and ressources to make the Sleipnir mount and other vanity stuff if it was not for the Cash Shop?

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Do you honestly believe they don't make content as usual and then pick some items here and there and put them on the cash shop instead of the patch?

No cash shop is one of reasons why I love FFXIV more than other MMOs. I really dont think that cash shop is neccessary for them and I am afraid that they will put things in it which should be obtainable trough normal means (like crafts etc, why should we buy vanity items? We should craft them)

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Originally Posted by MrLeonheart

Yeah, now what am I going to do with all the time I don't have to spend farming an encounter to never see the mount drop?!

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"I don't like it, so I'm happy they removed that option for everyone"
How selfish.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

That's funny, because it did mean that until just now. Apparently, the subscription fee is no longer a fee to experience the whole game, but merely just parts of the game. Our subscription money is literally worth less than it used to, from now on.

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ok jimmy you obviously dont understand. let me break it down real easy-like.
You bought a dollhouse(ffxiv)
you bought the Doll(subfee)
You buy all the nifty things for your doll(cash shop) none of that's wrong, but SE adding a cash shop for vanity is? cmon man seriously.

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Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

This is outright wrong, you are lying to yourself.
Take a look at the announced Odin mount (which is exclusive to the cash shop according to the Live Letter announcement last night)
At some point during the development process of either the mount or the trial the question must have been raised - Do we make this a drop, similar to the Extreme Primal mounts? Or do we put it into a cash shop?
This question WILL have come up during the development process. They have clearly chosen the route that will yield them money as opposed to the more fairer for all option.

We are losing things because of the cash shop. Content that otherwise would have had a direct method of being obtained in game is now being sold to us.

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Because mounts are so useful in this game. It's not like we can teleport to every zone in the game, or anything. I literally go weeks without even seeing my mount.

Also, they'll be developing specific items for the cash shop. They aren't sitting over there flipping a coin to decide what ends up in the cash shop or in-game as a drop. You're the one lying to yourself if you think having an optional cash shop is going to limit you in any way.

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Originally Posted by Raxion

This really isn't all that bad, guys. It'll add certain glamour sets, mounts, and minions to the game. It's not like they're selling i130 weapons in the shop, or level 50 job boosts. Blizzard does this for WoW as well, and it doesn't have even the slightest negative impact on the game.

It's just more ways for you to support SE for the hard work they put into the game for us. It's all optional, and it will in no way give anyone an advantage. Who knows, maybe they'll release a few things in the cash shop that you might be interested in purchasing yourself.

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Actually when it came to WoW, it did have a negative impact on the game. That's why I say this cash shop should never sell xp boosters, or anything that gives you an edge with your class or leveling. I feel very strongly about that.

As long as it doesn't affect game play I'm all for it. Its just glamour/mounts etc its a smart business move on their part.

The only thing that bothers me is my gf has no control when it comes to buying stuff from a cash ship :(