Best Gear in Coil needs to end

The best gear should always come from the end. Most MMOs operate on a gear treadmill. Gear from X, helps you down Y which gears you up for Z.

I 'think' what the op is trying to say, is that people don't have time to run Coil efficiently to keep up with the gear. I honestly believe there should be some middle-ground in the end-game content. Crystal Tower is too easy, hence why it drops i80. But Coil is pretty demanding and tough, but the rewards are there. Both ends of the scale really.

Hate to use Warcraft as an example, but their use of Heroic content was ideal. It allowed the 'casuals' to see the content in Normal and the 'hardcore' to show off their ego in Heroic gear.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

you know that they can make solo content hard? just saying...

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why add solo content to a mmorpg? ö_Ö story is solo enough...

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Originally Posted by Raenryong

Why should the best gear be awarded on the basis of time spent and not skill demonstrated?

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becoz judged by QQ threads patience is a high enough challenge to justify top tier gear

if you have already gotten all 12 atmas and 13500 myth tomes then........ you probably play the game too much

I hope the game gets even more difficult so people have more things to complain about.

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Originally Posted by SchalaZeal

Oils. And I think Scholar needs 7 oils.

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For scholar you need the complete left side except the pants of daystar set (left side needs sand) and the ring on right side (1x oil).

As of missing alternatives, I would equip a whitemage the opposite way. Left side high allagan stuff except pants (1xsand) and on rigth side the daystar accessoires as the high allagan ones are missing piety.

Actually there are only 2 rings for healers, so both need all of them.

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Originally Posted by Raenryong

Why should the best gear be awarded on the basis of time spent and not skill demonstrated?

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You could get ilvl 90 from wp before. No issues or complaints about that. It's about the fact that we should have options. Obviously you do coil and enjoy it. Believe it or not many people aren't you. We enjoy to just grind and not do coil where people are complete jerks, kick you for learning, blacklist you for needing an item, want you too have team speak, yell at you for a simple mistake. Casual players should still be able to get some gear to. Would you be happy if coil dropped ilvl 100 gear while people who grind extreme dungeons get ilvl 110 gear? That's how we feel.

I think it would be better if coil dropped *some* of the best stuff, but not all of it.

Say i110 main gear (head, chest, gloves, legs, feet) only dropped in coil. And only t9 dropped the i115 weapon.

But the rest of the i110 gear should be somewhere else in the world (sld tokens, primal fights, long quests or whatever).

Right now you've got ALL of the i110 stuff (right & left sides of the inventory) and all of the i110 upgrade tokens for SLD gear (including weapon) and the i115 weapons are ONLY available on the 4 bosses in coil2. Content that both favors playing with a static and is behind a weekly lockout. Basically it's too much crammed onto too few bosses. So it's not only bad for the raiders (too much loot crammed into too few loot tables makes it extremely RNG dependent to get your gear), but it's also bad for the players who can't play at specific set times (for a static) since all of the i110+ pieces are not in content that is available to them.

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Originally Posted by Raenryong

Why should the best gear be awarded on the basis of time spent and not skill demonstrated?

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Because alternatives are better. While I've never had an issue putting in hours of attempts in raiding before. What I don't tolerate is all the whining, elitism, and overall negativity that comes with it.

So why should the best gear be awarded on the basis that people tolerate that kind of environment and not to those that are civil?

I just don't really get why these people want this gear, other than because they're simply jealous people beating turns in Second Coil have a higher illv than them. There is no other content in the game which requires you to be in i110-115 gear. In all honesty you don't even need i100 gear to beat the new EX Primals, but that's still available. Other than that what is there you could possible need to be that overgeared for?

In Theory, best gear, or lets say "better gear" is a form of progress where you trade playtime for higher success rate on bossfights. That way you give weaker players a chance when they spend more time in collecting "Sets". The problem we have here is that SE cuts progress because gear you will need to beat content you are getting after beating that said content... So yeah, a MMO never ends but it is ridiculous to implement gear for content that "may" comes in a year or such...

That aside, we have some nice cutscenes and MANY open questions! SE should really start answering some questions, we are hanging around with lose ends of strings knowing nothing... with ascians SE already opened new strings and we know less than before! Sorry, but delivering service is not "answering" questions... not even lore from 1.x is answered, so we cant say its a new chapter...