Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

Don't know with 100% certainty, but I'd say probably not. Mage's Ballad doesn't stack, other debuffs from the same classes usually don't stack. (one exception I can think of is Virus)

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Ahh I see, the only thing I know is from the two bards in my group who seem to think Mage's Ballad stacks. However, I've never researched it or tested it so I was just going by their word. D:

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Originally Posted by AugustusSB

Ahh I see, the only thing I know is from the two bards in my group who seem to think Mage's Ballad stacks. However, I've never researched it or tested it so I was just going by their word. D:

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The 2nd mages will help replenish the first bard's MP, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't stack on the whole group.

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

The 2nd mages will help replenish the first bard's MP, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't stack on the whole group.

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Ahh I was hoping to use a non battlevoiced mages ballad at the same time (if it stacked), so that non bards got 2x the potency while bards got 1x the potency and somehow kept their MP enough to go into a battle voiced foe's requiem for a burning phase in T4 ^^.

But I guess that wont work that way heh :(

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

The 2nd mages will help replenish the first bard's MP, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't stack on the whole group.

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I don't even think it does that much. At least, I never notice a difference if another BRD and I play at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

I don't even think it does that much. At least, I never notice a difference if another BRD and I play at the same time.

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Haha.. Way to muddy the waters :D

I remember very vividly one bard asking another to play Mages to replenish his MP while he played Mages, if it worked or not I can't tell you at this time.. If no conclusion is reached I'll ask our top FC bard tonight lol

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

Haha.. Way to muddy the waters :D

I remember very vividly one bard asking another to play Mages to replenish his MP while he played Mages, if it worked or not I can't tell you at this time.. If no conclusion is reached I'll ask our top FC bard tonight lol

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We used to do this during the enrage method of ADS, T2. From what I remember, the bard playing whichever other songs mana still went down, it just went down slower. I am guessing this is because the MP/s rate of playing a song is greater then the MP/s gain from Mage's balad. Never tested to find out the hard numbers tho!

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Originally Posted by EasymodeX

I know, but you specifically mentioned "Not sure if with 0 ACC on your equipment you would be able to get a miss on those places."
Your condition was 'getting a miss at all'. So I just mentioned that at 341 acc, you'll probably manage to miss an EX Primal at some point.

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I'd really like to know if Primals can be missed with 0 acc on gear, I somewhat hope so as they are "Extrem versions" and are supposed to ask for some gear/stats at least. Hard to do the test as I'm at the opposite side of the field: totally over capped in ACC. By getting Titan's Earrings yesterday I managed to go down to 510 ACC ... yippie ..! I could go naked to have no accuracy, but I would die from the unavoidable damages before having a relevant testing, not to mention that testing from hiting from face without equipment on me means death at first cleave as even with gear i fall to 10-20% hp if it happens (Titan's cleave and MB, Garuda's cleaves and Ifrit's Firebreaths).
It's not like it has a big interest to know the Primals' ACC requirment, but still I'm curious.

They're literally level 50 mobs.

It's like hitting the training dummy. You only need a tiny bit of accuracy if you're hitting from the front. If you can possible get a set with 341 ACC as a dps go for it.

Yea, I'm down to something like 390 or so and I don't recall noticing any misses. Didn't really ask my friend to check the parses in detail.

Guys, we can only use 15 lines max in macro? I wanted to input buffs