Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

this is a roleplaying game. so marriage means, what it would mean in real life also. a deep relationship and not just a friendship. you know the difference?

when you ask someone to "marry you" its not meant to be "ah lets be the best friends forever". you are going to marry in a church ingame. so we all should know what a marriage implies. of course you cant have sex in Final Fantasy. its still just a fantasy game.

just lets end this "discussion", really strange what people can "discuss" about ;XD

Spongebob didnt marry Patrick Star, because he gave him a "BFF" (best friends forever) ring. we are talking about marriage. if you want just a ring or a symbol to show you are befriend with your chocobo then ask for an additional ingame option.
but thats not marriage.

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Eh??

So what does an MMO marriage entail that would exclude someone from marrying their chocobo?

Substantively, isn't BFF and a MMO marriage the exact same thing? We all know that there's no sex in the game.

So why have a different name for it?

And why can't a player have multiple BFF/marriages?
I know of many players would love to have a harem in their house.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

Eh??

So what does an MMO marriage entail that would exclude someone from marrying their chocobo?

Substantively, isn't BFF and a MMO marriage the exact same thing? We all know that there's no sex in the game.

[...]So why have a different name for it?

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i ask you an other question, why do you want to call it marriage? marriage is a fixed definition like friendship is. either you are too stupid for that (sorry to say) to understand this or just to ignorant or you just want to annoy people.

and that you cant watch "sex scenes" ingame.. does not mean, that there is no "sex" in eorzea (i cant believe i am talking about that XD). like in EVERY RPG (which means roleplaying) there is much of fantasy and imagination needed. or how do you think the babies come to eorzea? why are there different genders? so you really asking such things?
besides that, marriage is not all about sex..



marriage in FFXIV would not mean ANY different what it would mean in real life. what dont you understand about this anyways? how come then, Yoshi P. is unsure about implementing same sex marriage? because marriage in FFXIV means the same what it means in real life and not "i want to be your best friend forever"....


ask for a "BFF" friendship symbol if you really want to have something like that.
marriage is marriage, and friendship is friendship. like a tree is a tree and a bird is a bird. yea and still in a roleplaying game like FFXIV. DEFINITIONS

god damn..

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

Eh??

So what does an MMO marriage entail that would exclude someone from marrying their chocobo?

Substantively, isn't BFF and a MMO marriage the exact same thing? We all know that there's no sex in the game.

So why have a different name for it?

And why can't a player have multiple BFF/marriages?
I know of many players would love to have a harem in their house.

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No sex in FFXIV, and yet there are children, and those children have parents. O___O

If its existence wasn't specifically demonstrated in gameplay, would you insist that there's no oxygen in Eorzea too?

So what happens in a year or so, when the remaining same sex marriage bans in the US get overturned? Will XIV:ARR be next up on the docket!?!

I wish SE didn't put it out on the table like they did, essentially forcing them to take a side. Seeking feedback on the issue, during development, while they clearly can implement it however they'd like in-time for launch (hint: launch date anyone??). I'd guess they're going to implement it as they suggested, with a SSM ban, which is understandable given culture differences, but still a dated decision that I believe would offend a larger and broader gaming population than simply including SSM, primarily because of the 'real-world' attention this issue is receiving these days.

The suggestion of just changing it to some sort of renamed plutonic commitment ceremony isn't bad... but still an obvious cop-out since SE has already termed it 'marriage'. Under the guise of "this is just a fantasy game world", it would still be a better alternative than just going with the SSM ban. Either way, I can understand taking offense to whatever SE decides, but I don't think it should be a dealbreaker for anyone.

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Originally Posted by Keisuna

No sex in FFXIV, and yet there are children, and those children have parents. O___O

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Dont forget about the prostitutes in Uldah ^^ ;XD

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

Dont forget about the prostitutes in Uldah ^^ ;XD

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They're not prostitutes, they're provocative dancers meant to inspire people to...um...go mining! That's right :P

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Originally Posted by Keisuna

They're not prostitutes, they're provocative dancers meant to inspire people to...um...go mining! That's right :P

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yea, "prostitutes" was a little too harsh maybe. but you got what i meant ;XD

MArriage first off is a political driven idea, not religious. Nor did the word actually exist in many reglious factions, including any Abrahamic system, until later tranlations.

In a game. Based on fantasy, what ever it is called, isn't important. Technially Marriage has no religious foundation even if many want to claim it. THe TRUE definition did not men man and woman, but the unity of two unique things for a common bond, such as the marriage of music and poetry.

In a fantasy game, you can not use real life beliefs and faiths as doctrine, because in many faiths, simply play the game, and paying tribute in a fantasy to other deities is a violation of many doctrines. Remember that first in case you completed living on a prayer.

******* blabla

In a game where you can be a RL guy and play in game girl, which often happens, and vice a versa, choosing to play a small creature, a half cat, or beastly Roegadyn, having a debate about same sex marriage is about the stupidest thing ever.

Player to player marriage no matter the race, sex, or whatever.

If Vivi and Quina can do it!!!!!!!!