Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

Blame the people I tend to get in parties. After any stack mechanic all the people scatter to the four winds and out of range of Cure III. I love when I can use it, but most of the time it's a waste to try it.

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I'm seeing a lot of people say things similar to this and I'd like to address it directly. I don't mean this aimed at any one person and I don't mean to condescend, all that aside...


To effectively use Cure III you need to precast. It isn't the fault of your parties spreading out after an attack, they are under no obligation to stay standing there to recieve a heal, either you precast a Cure III (mp efficent if you can make use of the full heal) or if you can't be bothered to precast then you do a less effiecent heal like a double Medica or Medica II.

I just don't like to see these "but my party doesn't stay still long enough" things, it makes it sound like your parties should be compromising their dps so that you can use another part of your kit and that isn't the case. Precast it to land after the attack and no one has to adjust anything at all and you get to use a great skill.

On "smaller" bosses you can even use cure III to heal the tank and some melee. Or in trashpull if a melee happens to steal aggro for some reason and you need to heal both the tank and the dps at the same time. its also good to heal yourself and a nearby range dps. Just stay a bit closer to them.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

Blame the people I tend to get in parties. After any stack mechanic all the people scatter to the four winds and out of range of Cure III. I love when I can use it, but most of the time it's a waste to try it.

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Most stack markers seem to have roughly the same time ticking before the actual damage goes off (3 flashes and boom!). You could use that to get a sort of intuitive feel for when to start casting Cure III (Rabanastre is a great learning opportunity).

Just had a great ARF run with a newbie DRG from Balmung who did pretty well. Our BLM made excellent tactical use of the LB right before the first boss when the trash mobs were getting obnoxious. The SCH did a good job, even if their comp tried to kill us with a momentary freeze. Positive attitudes all around, and I was kinda grateful for the chance to get extra Poetics when I am trying to get some Shire for my NIN.

EDIT: And follow it up with a Dun Scabies run from Hell. The healers weren't healing except AoE's, and only occasionally on those. The summoner from Adamantoise who was throwing out raises left and right, I applaud you, and not just for scraping me off the floor, but everyone in our party. Yeah, I got unlucky and got DS on BLM and I'm not totally familiar with the raid, so I died a lot. But following raises, especially macro'd raises with annunciators, the healers should at least give 'em a spot heal so they're not sitting at 5% HP for upwards of a minute until some unavoidable kills them again. We never wiped, but after Scathach, I did joke that I should have just taken my thirty minutes...

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Originally Posted by Sapphire_Dianta

The final boss [of Great Gubal Library]... was a nightmare, to say the least. Joe directly made us wipe twice. The mechanics for this guy are quite simple; if you get marked with an exploding orb, drop if off at the edge of the arena so it doesn't go boom and kill people to death. Group up and press button clusters when they appear. Joe did neither.

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On the actual mechanics of this fight... this was a dungeon mechanic I tried to work out on my own, and my team members must have hated me for those times I ran it before looking up the correct strategy. I'd thought that perhaps the glowing sphere was supposed to be dropped on the glowing circle, and did so repeatedly trying to see what it did. Somehow failed to realise that team members were 'pushing the buttons', and never ventured onto one myself (because I was wary, and possibly trying to see what the orb did).... anyway, it's one of the things where you're not guaranteed to understand the mechanics just by observing other people do them - at least not while you're also trying to participate in the battle.

So, after getting annoyed at my RL sister the day before for queuing us in for Shinryu (normal) as healers (it's a fight I absolutely hate and have only been in there 3 times; once as black mage which is where my PTSD comes from and now twice as a healer), I decided to queue up on my fresh-70 PLD (so happy I finished it. First tank at 70!) while I'm on voice chat with my EB partner who is in laying in bed because it's late. I'm thinking I'll get Titan (which I get a LOT for some reason) but I say to him "man, if I get Shinryu I dunno what Im going to do. I almost wanna just leave it but that's not fair." We have a chuckle, the queue pops, takes me a moment to load in and..that's my cue to start cursing.

100% got Shinryu.
I'm just.. annoyed and now anxious. To top it off, there are at least 4 newbies to the fight, two for sure had never been there and the others could have been alts but I don't think they were.

I express that I've never lived through it, and that I dislike it, and that I'm here as tank for the first time. I only remember a few of the mechanics but not enough.

We wipe on the first tidal wave because no one mentioned it and I forgot to mention it until it was too late (although I did remember to use Tempered Will so yay for me). After that first wipe, one of the DPS leaves without a word. He's replaced by a SMN not too long after that. I'm still on voice chat, still annoyed and still wanting to leave but not prepared to. I don't even care about the penalty because this was the last thing i was going to do before bed and honestly, I could just log out and go to bed, but it wouldn't be fair to everyone else so I stayed.

We tried again and got further this time but with the proximity aoes we managed to live through one but not the next one. So it was another wipe. I think in total we wiped 4 times before we finally made it to the second phase (I was able to tell the newbies to press the button quickly and then run as soon as we hit the platform). We lived through that but both healers died from the tail or something. We restarted, made it again to that phase and when the platform turns to ice, I quickly typed 'DONT MOVE!' which caused the opposite reaction and a bunch of them moved and ..wipe.

We made it up to 30% echo and that's when we finally kind of came together enough to eke out the win. No one had left after that first DPS. I did feel bad because I mentioned when I went through as BLM I died so often that the healers just stopped bothering to raise me. The one newbie who for sure was new, she died a lot and the last death, the healers just left her there (granted though, boss was at like 5%).

In retrospect, the fight isn't that bad as tank as it is as healer or dps. It's still not one I want to do again willingly, but it was a bit easier as tank.

So yesterday was a fun one. My friend in game needed to do a few levelling roulettes for her zodiac relic, and was 2 short. First one pops and we do it alright, but it was Aurum Vale. But I played like hot garbage and messed up all over the shop, pulling extra mobs and the like (thankfully my friend was on PLD so picked them up, but gave me a good scolding for it too). But we get through. She needs 1 more. So we queue... and get Aurum Vale AGAIN.

She's like "OH GOD WHY!?" and ragequits (presumably joking around). Then she realises she's been hit with a 30 minute penalty. I stick around (even though I'm BRD), but the other DPS left too. Then we get a second DPS quickly, and then tank joined a few pulls later. Get through without any major problems. Though I did manage to mess up the BRD LB. Go to hit all the mobs with it, position myself badly and manage to hit 1. I joked about it in chat, but inside I was like "Are you [expletive] stupid Furry!?"

Decided to do Alliance Roulette to get some practice on MNK (going from RDM to MNK is... interesting) and get Rabanastre.

I'm normally not elitist and hate feeling like one, but holy cow was I glad to get out of that instance as fast as possible. I popped a few bubbles and then noticed people weren't popping them at all (so there were a bunch of Ice Slaves about). Not enough people were killing the Blizzard III mobs, so people were transformed into Snowmen. The Alliance phase (three Sanuwa) happened while Mateus was at 50-55% HP (I recall people having enough DPS to knock Mateus down to 3% around the end of 4.1 before those adds show up) and we barely met the DPS check on that (his LB was at... 99% I guess? I managed to survive at ~1000HP from 42k thanks to Riddle of Earth). Team A's add was at 50% when B and my team killed ours. He got to use Unbind two more times after that.

Instantly left after saying "Yeah no thanks." Don't even feel bad. If Mateus took that long to kill with that many mistakes, then I did not want to experience the Hashfail. Yes, I am aware there could have been newbies, but I kinda expect newbies to figure things out for themselves by either watching other players or using common sense (it's what I do when I'm doing new content).

well... this is a... wut episode. I'm lvling pld and loaded in Gubal HM. Healer was a lala, and after I pulled the first mobs one of the dps says : "hello sry i will leave because i dont raid with lalas". And proceeded leave. I was like........ wtf?

one time, this party really made me mad. I was a PLD tank, pulling big in an endgame duty. the mobs took a while to die, because dps was bad but its whatev. the healer was not struggling on MP so I thought everything was fine. but then the healer was like "if you pull big they die slowly", even though the party WANTED big pulls. I left that duty.