What's your first impression of Eureka?

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Originally Posted by Alleo

A question to everyone, no matter if you like it or not. Do you realistically see this as long living content?

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If it remains as it is, I don't expect it to last very long.

The only incentive to come back once you have completed the first stage is loot (and that won't be an incentive for people who got the mount etc while levelling).

Since you need to group with people of a similar level to get XP, Eureka doesn't appear to be very friendly to people starting late or progressing slowly due to time restraints. In other words it's not casual content (using the definition of casual = limited time to play).

It's not solo friendly. The XP you can get alone is very low and if you die you are dependant on a player who can raise being in your vicinity or being kind enough to go out of their way to help.

On the subject of the 'Death Penalty', I see a lot of people defending it and saying it's a fun mechanic but a lot of them are also saying things along the lines of,
"Anyway, it's very easy to get a raise, so if you lose XP that's basically a choice you made."
That says to me that they are enjoying the illusion of danger while knowing there is actually very little risk of them losing XP or delevelling due to the high numbers in the instances. When fewer players are in the area and the risk becomes real, I think that penalty may prove more of a disincentive.

Since there is only one thing to do in the area, I expect boredom to become more of a factor as time goes on.
The lack of story, the inability to play with friends and the very long grind on this step are probably going to sap a lot of people's motivation.

I keep thinking "oh it's not so bad". Then I remember that it's basically just following a fate train around and think of all the things it could have been...

I have a weird feeling they will cut off EXP rewards if you are not the appropriate level range. However if they did do that and balance the amount of EXP you get off mobs, it would spread people out again.

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Originally Posted by Texa

You're right. I was just three ducks in a Texa suit all along. I'm such a phony. You sure told me a thing or two.

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Again,What tells me you arnt disguised? & you can stand as plural so,,, maybe I wasn't referring to you at all on that comment.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

I have a weird feeling they will cut off EXP rewards if you are not the appropriate level range. However if they did do that and balance the amount of EXP you get off mobs, it would spread people out again.

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I hope they don't decide to do that in the hotfix. It would be a big mistake IMO as it just further reinforces the fact that if you don't binge it when it comes out you get screwed and the forums would catch fire even more. They could incorporate it into the next area they add though.

At this point the damage has been done. If anything they should go the opposite direction and help the people that are just starting.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

You're right, I was hastily quoting the cumulated 3.7% that use the forum "often" as opposed to the 62% that never do. Which still means that people who post, even rarely, are far from representing the majority of the playerbase, whatever their opinion is.

If that makes you happy, by only having 117 messages, you're probably part of a bigger sample than me, I guess ;)

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Letter from the Producer, XXIX (06/04/2012)

Do you view the official forums?Never 3.7%

this is a false remark from how I read it, in other terms,this looks like the cake is a lie for me.

P.s: I like my 117 messages, I find them relevant & i have not said that I personally am a bigger sample (As far as i can tell & as far as i remember)You have no clue why I didn't post more than this & I sure will not explain that one to you.

Using & viewing the forums is somewhat different in my humble opinion,sure

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Originally Posted by Fyce

I'm trying to "tune down your vocal cords" because you are just saying incoherant gibberish of hate at this point.
Now you are so desperate

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I am apparently desperate enough that I push the good arguments back even further behind but at the very least, I know when to recognize false numbers & that is not because I "hastily" did a statement.When I am wrong & I recognize the fact of it,I will admit to it to myself & apologise, the minion comment was mostly because Honey_Tailtwitcher typed all that in capital letters, it felt like I struck a Nerve but here, I apologise if I missrespected you for inputting my feeling about it once more when obviously everyone got the point that I am mad according to fyce 50 pages ago,because everyone read it all & so I got told I am right with a drop of full blown sarcasm,Its ok I do a lot of sarcasm myself at times also...

P.s: Can you sense the sarcasm in my sarcasm? Oh look fate train! Throw me a whole fc!..RAWR

Just going to wait for 5.0 and do the easy catch up phase and purchase NPC gear in the new starter area do the story complete it and wait for 5.2 or longer and play another mmo in the meantime then repeat. /Shrugs

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Originally Posted by Alleo

I know that this thread is already long enough but I dont want to create another Eureka thread or something so just posting it here.

A question to everyone, no matter if you like it or not. Do you realistically see this as long living content?

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You touched on it, but I agree the relic is the only thing Eureka has going for it. It's very shallow content, much like Diadem. When you have shallow gameplay the content just won't last long. Going forward, if they make a new zone for Eureka then it will easily die off. If they just try to add more to the zone as is, the lower level areas will most likely die off while everyone does the new stuff. And if they try to revitalize the lower level areas by making the next steps of relic tied into the content we did before, then we are back to square one.

The bottom line, Eureka is flawed; between lack of creative activities to do, a leveling system that serves to arbitrarily lengthen the grind, and an extremely shallow elemental system none of which contribute to anything resembling creative. They need to do a revamp to how the whole system works. Because being level 1 or level 20, or having 1 point to put into elements or 5, the gameplay is the same all throughout. If they raised the level cap to 30 and added another 5 elemental points it would still play the same as before, just with numbers changing. They can add activities to the zone like hunt marks and daily/weekly quests, but the leveling and elemental system is fundamentally flawed without an overhaul of those systems.

You touched on it, but I agree the relic is the only thing Dungeon has going for it. It's very shallow content, much like Diadem. When you have shallow gameplay the content just won't last long. Going forward, if they make a new dungeon then it will easily die off. If they just try to add more to the dungeon as is, the lower dungeons will most likely die off while everyone does the new stuff. And if they try to revitalize the lower dungeons by making the next steps of relic tied into the content we did before, then we are back to square one.

The bottom line, Dungeon is flawed; between lack of creative activities to do, a leveling system that serves to arbitrarily lengthen the grind, and an extremely shallow loot system none of which contribute to anything resembling creative. They need to do a revamp to how the whole system works. Because being level 14 or level 70, or having new 24 men dungeon, the gameplay is the same all throughout. If they raised the level cap to 80 and added another 10 levels it would still play the same as before, just with numbers changing. They can add activities to the zone like hunt marks and daily/weekly quests, but the leveling and elemental system is fundamentally flawed without an overhaul of those systems.

Oh please do not mind me, I am just doing an experiment to see if I can replace few keywords related to Eureka into dungeon. Come to think of it, your issue is more related to Relic system itself instead of Eureka

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Originally Posted by odintius

Just going to wait for 5.0 and do the easy catch up phase and purchase NPC gear in the new starter area do the story complete it and wait for 5.2 or longer and play another mmo in the meantime then repeat. /Shrugs

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Are you not sick & tired of doing that? Or is that your first time doing this?