Glowing weapons

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Exactly. One thing I am sick of seeing is glowing shit in any MMORPG. I'd rather depict what rank somone is by the badass "design" of a weapon, rather than say "oh lulz you must be high level cuz ur weapons iz glowing purplez."

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It should not be the only gear, or the best gear, it should be an option, in fact i wouldnt mind skinnable items for the game, seeing everyone dress for stats is ehhhh.

It's a good thing the Dev team doesnt listen to us, sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Just because it's fantasy doesn't mean glowing weapons automatically fit. These things have sub genres. That's like saying light sabres would be at home in Star Trek.

Glowing weapons are more fitting of fairytale fantasy. XIV is more of a high fantasy thing. If a sword does glow, it's because it's an ancient one of a kind deal that just would not do well in an MMO unless an NPC used it. Think sting in LotR.

Seeing 20 or so guys running around with Ifrit's Butter Knife kinda ruins its importance as an ancient weapon of great power.

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Sorry, but you're wrong. And your lightsaber analogy doesn't work because lightsabers are a very specific object, not some general idea that can be applied in a myriad of ways, such as a glowing light.

And glowing things can fit in with high-fantasy just as well as they can with your so-called "fairy-tail" fantasy. Trying to claim that glowing things don't fit into a high-fantasy setting is absolutely ridiculous.

Also, just so you know, WoW, Aion, and EverQuest also qualify as high-fantasy, just like FFXIV and FFXI.

And there are going to be tons of people running around with endgame gear, regardless of whether it glows or not, so that's not a valid argument, either.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I'm in the black shroud right now.

The only things I've seen glow are a few lanterns.

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someone missed the fireflies...

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Glowing weapons will allow for a company to be dull and non-creative with their games. I think we are trying to direct FFXIV in the opposite direction, aren't we?

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The more tools a company has at their disposal, the more creativity they have. If you insist that they can't use a particular tool (in this case glowing lights), then you're putting a limitation on the creative possibilities that are open to the development team.

I agree that FFXIV needs to have more creativity, but you're wrong to say that adding another tool to the dev team's arsenal will somehow inhibit them.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

It's a good thing the Dev team doesnt listen to us, sometimes.

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They can make you smoke and spark all over the place if they want. Just don't be surprised if the 25 to 29 year olds roll their eyes and quit the garbage product. 16 to 20 year olds wear things and want to wear things that the rest of us think are hilariously bad.

Plenty of MMOs where kids can pop collars. FF characters don't glow and sparkle. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

They can make you smoke and spark all over the place if they want. Just don't be surprised if the 25 to 29 year olds roll their eyes and quit the garbage product. 16 to 20 year olds wear things and want to wear things that the rest of us think are hilariously bad.

Plenty of MMOs where kids can pop collars. FF characters don't glow and sparkle. Sorry.

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you must think getting old means being a stick in the mud. If 25-29 year olds are going to judge a product based on how how shiny it is, then they are fools. I can see someone saying they want real content and not flash, but how about real content and flash.
There is no maturity level involved, its just an opinion, you dont like sparkling stuff, if you see sparkling stuff it makes you want to leave and throw up, thats fine, but dont try to make it seem like sparkle is intrinsicly flawed or childish. You are playing an mmo, massive multi player, ideally the world should accomodate both types of people, and the game would never force you to pick one over the other. Then the people who hate sparklies could sit around hating on the sparkly people, and the sparkly people can sit around hating on the drab people, and everyone can be happy hating on each other.

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Originally Posted by Physic

you must think getting old means being a stick in the mud. If 25-29 year olds are going to judge a product based on how how shiny it is, then they are fools. I can see someone saying they want real content and not flash, but how about real content and flash.
There is no maturity level involved, its just an opinion, you dont like sparkling stuff, if you see sparkling stuff it makes you want to leave and throw up, thats fine, but dont try to make it seem like sparkle is intrinsicly flawed or childish. You are playing an mmo, massive multi player, ideally the world should accomodate both types of people, and the game would never force you to pick one over the other. Then the people who hate sparklies could sit around hating on the sparkly people, and the sparkly people can sit around hating on the drab people, and everyone can be happy hating on each other.

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There very much is a maturity level involved, by the demographic. We don't want Twilight. We make fun of Twilight. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but we're looking for a more mature MMO.

You don't look cool. You look stupid. You looking stupid impinges on our game experience. Gear doesn't have to glow and sparkle to look good. In fact, it detracts from it.

Devs probably like the idea because if the armor and weapons sparkle and glow, they don't have to spend as much time on the detail. Congrats. Throw a little smoke effect on it and you barely have to design anything.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

There very much is a maturity level involved, by the demographic. We don't want Twilight. We make fun of Twilight. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but we're looking for a more mature MMO.

You don't look cool. You look stupid.

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You have a cultural bias, you think bright things look stupid, that has nothing to do with age. keep in mind this is a worldwide, cross cultural, cross lingual game. Just because in your neck of the woods, the young people want glowing things doesnt mean its a world view, they have cultures where the young people all dress in dark morose colors and wouldnt want to touch anything bright and shiny with a 10 foot pole. Its just your opinion, there is no absolute truth to it.

You think it sucks, we get that. Twilight btw is full of drably dressed people trying to be dark and disturbed without a glowing sparkly in sight, and its main demographic is girls age 11-15 sooooo maybe your sparkly is young demographics are messed up.

Uh Europe and NA. 75% of this game's demographic. Our teens all look stupid. Where do you live, Namibia?
Lol you be my guest and deny that visual format doesn't cater to certain demographics. We don't like Justin Bieber as a collective. It very much has to do with age.

Sparkling, flaming characters are centered on the generic likings of the 16-20 year old demographic. The older, more mature MMO players prefer FFXI's style, or plausible modest fantasy. Classic gothic presence versus Elizabethan pomp. You're on the wrong side of Wuthering Heights here.